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The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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> The Justice Department also kept a Biden-era proposal that seeks to ban Google from paying companies like Apple, other smartphone manufacturers and Mozilla to make its search engine the default on their phones and browsers. RIP Firefox?

I recently switched to Vivaldi and have really liked it.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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A company owning a web browser isn't the problem. A company owning a web browser, OS and search engine shouldn't be a problem either. I don't know why the remedy can't actually address the problem, and the DOJ can't move more quickly to address antitrust across the industry. This feels like randomly cutting a baby in half, while the rest of the thieves, even those in the same family, are not deterred.

The problem is an ads company owning a web browser, OS, and search engine, and using that control over how users interact with the internet to outcompete everyone else. You left out Google's raison d'etre from your statement.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

#104

> The Justice Department also kept a Biden-era proposal that seeks to ban Google from paying companies like Apple, other smartphone manufacturers and Mozilla to make its search engine the default on their phones and browsers. RIP Firefox?

Firefox will be just fine. Mozilla CEO bonuses however...

This is complete nonsense.

I don't love the CEO bonuses, but they are objectively less than half a percent of Mozilla's budget. Google search on the other hand is 85% of their revenue.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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All that rather pathetic grovelling and kowtowing to Trump, for naught.

They’re still getting a friendlier NLRB, lower corporate tax rates, and an economic policy that is less focused on full employment; tamping down engineering wage growth

They already pivoted to hire offshore workers, so why would they care

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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> The Justice Department also kept a Biden-era proposal that seeks to ban Google from paying companies like Apple, other smartphone manufacturers and Mozilla to make its search engine the default on their phones and browsers. RIP Firefox?

If chrome is no longer owned by Google I'll use it. That's the reason I switched to firefox in the first place.

In my opinion Firefox is better in all the ways except speed - Chrome still feels faster on old computers. And I prefer the browser market to still have some technical diversity no matter who actually runs it.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

#107

> The Justice Department also kept a Biden-era proposal that seeks to ban Google from paying companies like Apple, other smartphone manufacturers and Mozilla to make its search engine the default on their phones and browsers. RIP Firefox?

I recently switched to Vivaldi and have really liked it.

Is it going to support manifest v2 after it is phased out by Google or whoever is going to own Chrome?

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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You are being downvoted, but people surely realize this is 100% true , right? Not only is it 100% true, it is inevitably going to be the outcome. Google will not have to divest Chrome. Sundar just has to pay the $5M to have dinner at Mara Lago and the next day Trump will be talking about how unfairly Google has been treated, probably blaming China or Canada or something for this DOJ action, and the DOJ will drop the…

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Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://adguard.com/en/blog/mozilla-deletes-promise-to-never...

The point of switching to Firefox is not "Google bad, Mozilla good". The point is to chip away at the chromium browser monopoly. If you have another non-chromium browser to recommend, please share as an alternative. Mozilla has not proven themselves to be trustworthy, but I think most would still consider them to be less untrustworthy than Google. Firefox offers similar levels of support, feature parity, and performa…

>feature parity

No PWA support out of the box last time I looked. And Firefox (understandably but annoyingly) doesn't support some of the non-standardised Chrome APIs such as the File System Access API.

Re: The DOJ still wants Google to sell off Chrome

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It’s a big world. Does breaking up google give the Asian giants an advantage? Wonder if China breaks up their large tech companies?

Advantage where ? Chinese tech companies are not competing outside China with one notable exception of TikTok (1) .

Global tech companies do not compete in China, the market is brutal for non Chinese companies with level of espionage, theft, sabotage that is allowed.

It is really small world for big tech, the same 5-10 companies dominate most of the world in most frequently used consumer products, and using that dominance to crowd out competitors in every new product category

(1) which is banned in few major markets like India already even if the US reverses the ban

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