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Re: Delta Chat – Email Based PGP Encrypted Chat

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post #65

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WhatsApp obviously cannot be trusted for message privacy for the simple reason that Meta paid gazillion bucks for it. I don't understand why people need more evidence beyond that.

the cant read your messages. thats the usp of using signal encryption its the rest of the account and metadata that is at risk

Do you think your whatsapp application is end-to-end encrypted on your device? They control the client so anything is possible.

Re: Delta Chat – Email Based PGP Encrypted Chat

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post #68
post #67

The most important factor with email, is that your inbox is encrypted at rest at all times... and cannot be bruteforced. The chances of your email messages being 'man in the middled' are almost non-existent. Its a micro-percent of live investigations that does this. The police RELY ON finding messages in either your inbox or the recipients. It doesnt matter if they are encrypted or not in reality. Of course they'd li…

> Ive been under NCA and FBI investigation before. Protonmail with the two password method stopped them every time. Memorise the 2nd password and password manager the first. Unless you exclusively use proton-bridge and disabled auto-update, then proton controls all endpoints in which your passwords live. So what is preventing the FBI from forcing Proton to serve a special UI just to you that will be used to exfiltrat…

Nothing if I was a tier 1 Russian spy. but Im not.

Re: Delta Chat – Email Based PGP Encrypted Chat

#104
post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

the cant read your messages. thats the usp of using signal encryption its the rest of the account and metadata that is at risk

Do you think your whatsapp application is end-to-end encrypted on your device? They control the client so anything is possible.

well, thats the stated functionality! hahaha

Re: Delta Chat – Email Based PGP Encrypted Chat

#105
post #71
post #67

The most important factor with email, is that your inbox is encrypted at rest at all times... and cannot be bruteforced. The chances of your email messages being 'man in the middled' are almost non-existent. Its a micro-percent of live investigations that does this. The police RELY ON finding messages in either your inbox or the recipients. It doesnt matter if they are encrypted or not in reality. Of course they'd li…

You have? Why?

just the usual dark web bullshit.

no charges but lots of attempted snooping.

fuck them

Re: Delta Chat – Email Based PGP Encrypted Chat

#106
post #96
post #34

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See earlier on today's front page, another all in one mail server. It is much, much simpler than it was to do this. I've been self hosting email for nearly 20 years and the state of the art is considerably better now. Latency is virtually nonexistent and federation works.

I'd say it's good enough - but I refuse to call a conversation over email "reliable" as in the properties I expect from a realtime messenger.

It's reliable, it conveys messages, but not instant at all.
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