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It is not a petty tantrum though it might look like one. You have to consider that the incumbents have won the US elections, that's not a small feat. What many people are missing is that if the US main challenger is China and beating Russia is a far thing, then it makes sense for the US to ally with Russia against China. For that, the US might need to give Russia something (some EU countries?) for this hustle and als…

> it makes sense for the US to ally with Russia against China Economically and population wise Russia is tiny compared to the West (Canada, EU, etc) It makes no sense to trade our alliance with the West for alliance with much weaker and poorer Russia. I think Russia has compromising info on Trump. That's the simplest explanation.

Russia advantage is its large border with China. The US is not allying because of their (non) existent economy. But they'll be a formidable ally in case of a war against China.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not a petty tantrum though it might look like one. You have to consider that the incumbents have won the US elections, that's not a small feat. What many people are missing is that if the US main challenger is China and beating Russia is a far thing, then it makes sense for the US to ally with Russia against China. For that, the US might need to give Russia something (some EU countries?) for this hustle and als…

> it makes sense for the US to ally with Russia against China Economically and population wise Russia is tiny compared to the West (Canada, EU, etc) It makes no sense to trade our alliance with the West for alliance with much weaker and poorer Russia. I think Russia has compromising info on Trump. That's the simplest explanation.

What info would possibly be compromising to Trump. His cult spreads across half the country. They won’t believe anything, including audio and video.

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Hello from Ukraine and I need help. The war in Ukraine has made it impossible to run my startup. Due to unlimited attacks it has become impossible to focus on anything other than the war. Of course, the war certainly needs to be stopped, but no one really knows how to do it correctly and I'm not sure anything good will come of it. After 3 years of the war, my memory has started to deteriorate and I’ve encountered iss…

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This is not a good response on HN, because the impact of your guessing wrong is much higher than the benefit of your guessing right.

That is, the chance that someone really is in a desperate situation, and that a snarky comment might push their head further underwater, is significant enough to not to post like this.

It doesn't mean you have to respond by donating money, of course, but we should all be a bit careful about who we decide to knock around on the internet.

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The thing is, the Nobel Committee for the Peace Prize is Norwegian. And Norway has a land border with Russia...

The thing what? That has absolutely nothing to do with it

You don’t think Norwegians will hesitate to give trump the peace price if he does what he does?

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The Budapest Memorandum basically only required the USA to bring any violations to the UN Security Council, which we did in 2022. I think we have a moral obligation to continue providing military aid and diplomatic assistance but there is no legal obligation to do anything more. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

That's right. And let's not forget that Europe and USA have been helping directly for a few years now anyway. It's really disappointing how much misinformation gets reiterated on the Internet with regards to this memorandum, given how short the document is and how easy it is to verify its contents oneself. PS. NATO's Article 5 is also worth a read. It does not guarantee what is commonly claimed.

Let's not go there.

In the history of the Alliance there is only a single country that invoked article 5, and it was the US with 9/11 that lead to the United Kingdom, Canada, Germany, Australia, Italy, New Zealand to send resources and troops to help with Afghanistan.

And managed to get people involved in Iraq namely United Kingdom, Australia, Poland.

And this situation was way worse and way less called for than the Ukrainians defending themselves...

EDIT/NB: I listed just the major contributors, some other countries participated in different ways and at different levels, but still this is important to mention here...

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> it makes sense for the US to ally with Russia against China Economically and population wise Russia is tiny compared to the West (Canada, EU, etc) It makes no sense to trade our alliance with the West for alliance with much weaker and poorer Russia. I think Russia has compromising info on Trump. That's the simplest explanation.

Russia advantage is its large border with China. The US is not allying because of their (non) existent economy. But they'll be a formidable ally in case of a war against China.

Russia has no interest in being an ally against China.

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It would be one thing if there was a clear policy and adherence to it. In that case, you could discuss and reason in good faith. However there is no such indication that this decision is based on a considered policy. Trump's supporters would say that this is a result of not wanting the US being involved in foreign conflicts. That is a laudable goal, however that is not what is happening here. From the article > On Fr…

This is, unfortunately about one thing only: The Nobel Peace Prize. As Trump sees it, Zelenskyy is blocking Trump's peace prize by not agreeing to his (very bad) terms that are designed with one purpose in mind: Quickly freezing the conflict so that he can declare himself peacemaker and get his prize (because Obama got his 9 months into his term). The Russians have been grooming him since the 80s (along with many oth…

Someone told trump he could get a peace prize for ending the war in Ukraine. They forgot to tell him that it's the Europeans who give it.

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I agree, it's better to be closer to the Polish border. That's why I wrote that I need funds to be able to take any action. The last time such a move cost me over $10k and I also volunteered to help my family and others.

No such a move only costs a few hundred dollars at most and maybe free if you are willing to rough it up with the truck drivers. The situation can only be complicated by immediate family members but still it's only a car rental or convincing somebody with a car to drive you there.

And what’s next? Sleep on the street? Rent is expensive, I’ve already tried and it’s impossible without any income.

Sure, thanks for the advice, but I’ll need to work, not just travel. I need the same big monitor for work, a good chair, and usually these things aren’t available, so I end up working in terrible conditions.

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