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Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by TwoPhonesOneKid »

somenameforme wrote: post #60

A surprisingly large amount of data one might think is classified is not at all. In this case all the examples listed are from freely available public data outside of the Twitter thing which seems to be just setting up the environment for some local tool. Here are the sites: --- datacatalog.worldbank.org opendata.arcgis.com mrdata.usgs.gov / www.usgs.gov --- Sharing things like this isn't very useful because it just…

> Sharing things like this isn't very useful because it just causes further divides.

I gave up trying to gentle parent other adults a long time ago. Newsrooms themselves have no fear publishing disingenuous and polarizing content.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

#102

Post by TwoPhonesOneKid »

maxerickson wrote: post #84
tokioyoyo wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever they promised and people voted for by believing in those promises. People wanted a strong man, and they basically got it. I understand markets can be irrational blah blah, but still surprised how people with money aren’t shipping it away or storing it somewhere more safe looking at the current situation.

I would frame that as being motivated to satisfy their base, vs being motivated to succeed. Success usually has a positive connotation, and they don't seem to be doing a particularly good job if you take the "reduce the size of the government" goal at face value (they are making messes everywhere they go, with the government shrinking slower than normal attrition...).

Their bases in this context is also one or two men, not voters.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Post by soulofmischief »

ttyprintk wrote: post #98
soulofmischief wrote: post #90

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I'm sorry, but a code comment does not demonstrate lack of expertise, although such a perspective certainly brings your own expertise into question. Perhaps we should all assume a little less?

I think it does, objectively. In a pull request, I’d comment: “You imported pandas with an abbreviation. You economize the variable name `df` instead of dataframe. Those anticipate a reader who already knows when to chose the read_csv method.”

If you are in charge of reviewing someone's pull request and ensuring they adhere to specified company guidelines, you can do whatever your organization wants. Outside of that though, you lack the authority to tell programmers how many comments are too much. I too know how to write self-documenting code, but that doesn't mean your code should have no comments or shouldn't be liberally commented.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

#104

Post by DrNosferatu »

rayiner wrote: post #96
DrNosferatu wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I remember the anti-interventionist Democrats of the 80s and 90s quite well. They criticized military adventures but never suggested dismantling NATO, abandoning treaty allies, or praising dictators while undermining their own intelligence agencies. Funny how this "anti-interventionism" only applies to defending democracies against Russian aggression, but not to inserting troops into cities to confront protesters or…

> I remember the anti-interventionist Democrats of the 80s and 90s quite well. They criticized military adventures but never suggested dismantling NATO, abandoning treaty allies, or praising dictators while undermining their own intelligence agencies You’re making it sound like they were on board with the general idea of using american power to police the world, but only disagreed on the particulars. That was not the…

Anti-interventionist Democrats criticized military spending but never advocated abandoning treaty obligations that maintained global stability since WWII.

(or you would prefer that the US hadn’t even joined the Allies in WWII?)

There's a profound difference between questioning military budgets and actively undermining alliances while praising dictators.

Your characterization whitewashes the specific nature of Trump's positions, which uniquely align with Russian strategic objectives in ways no previous anti-interventionist movement ever did.

As for "shutting down riots is good for the vast majority of Americans" while "defending far away borders isn't"—that's revealing. Democracy only matters within arbitrary geographic boundaries? The same argument justified ignoring Hitler's early aggressions.

Strange how this selective "anti-interventionism" consistently benefits one specific foreign power while dismissing democratic values as irrelevant beyond US borders.

But I understand—principles are flexible when they're just convenient vehicles for power rather than actual beliefs.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

#105

Post by soulofmischief »

LoganDark wrote: post #99
soulofmischief wrote: post #92

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How about we don't tell other people how to code? It's one thing to make suggestions, it's another to make demands. I've been doing this for a long time and I can code laps around most people. I also like well-commented code that allows me to quickly skim code and check it for correctness. You can have your preferences all you want and that's great, but when you start passing irrational judgement about the value of s…

> How about we don't tell other people how to code? It's one thing to make suggestions, it's another to make demands. I've been doing this for a long time and I can code laps around most people. I also like well-commented code that allows me to quickly skim code and check it for correctness. I'm sorry, that was not intended to be received as a demand, I edited my comment to hopefully clarify. > You can have your pref…

I appreciate the edit and I do think we could have an enjoyable and fruitful conversation about this. Normally I would, but I have a lot going on today. I do appreciate your willingness to have a productive conversation about this topic and I apologize if I let my frustration toward some of the other commenters in this thread affect how I engaged with you specifically :)

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

#106

Post by LoganDark »

soulofmischief wrote: post #105
LoganDark wrote: post #99

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> How about we don't tell other people how to code? It's one thing to make suggestions, it's another to make demands. I've been doing this for a long time and I can code laps around most people. I also like well-commented code that allows me to quickly skim code and check it for correctness. I'm sorry, that was not intended to be received as a demand, I edited my comment to hopefully clarify. > You can have your pref…

I appreciate the edit and I do think we could have an enjoyable and fruitful conversation about this. Normally I would, but I have a lot going on today. I do appreciate your willingness to have a productive conversation about this topic and I apologize if I let my frustration toward some of the other commenters in this thread affect how I engaged with you specifically :)

To be fair I did use profanity in my original comment so I can understand the jump to frustration. Hopefully your day goes well.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

#108

Post by LoganDark »

zmgsabst wrote: post #78
LoganDark wrote: post #22

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Just search for forks: https://github.com/PatrickFanella/x-dm-downloader for example. We will probably have a short while (day or two) before false DMCA notices about this are actioned by GitHub

What makes them false DMCA claims? I don’t see a license on the repo.

I mean false as in filing a DMCA claim just to take down something you don't like rather than to protect material that actually means anything. So, false as in morally, not legally.

Besides, this shit was clearly at least 90% AI-generated anyway, and I think the jury is still out on whether some specific arrangement of AI-generated chunks of code actually even counts as a copyrighted work.

But everyone knows the drill is DMCA notices now, lawsuits years to decades later.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

#109

Post by rayiner »

DrNosferatu wrote: post #104
rayiner wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I remember the anti-interventionist Democrats of the 80s and 90s quite well. They criticized military adventures but never suggested dismantling NATO, abandoning treaty allies, or praising dictators while undermining their own intelligence agencies You’re making it sound like they were on board with the general idea of using american power to police the world, but only disagreed on the particulars. That was not the…

Anti-interventionist Democrats criticized military spending but never advocated abandoning treaty obligations that maintained global stability since WWII. (or you would prefer that the US hadn’t even joined the Allies in WWII?) There's a profound difference between questioning military budgets and actively undermining alliances while praising dictators. Your characterization whitewashes the specific nature of Trump's…

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