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Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Post by mikehollinger »

mmh0000 wrote: post #75
causal wrote: post #67

I'm always wondering at the safety measures on these things. How much force is in those motors? This is basically safety-critical stuff but with LLMs. Hallucinating wrong answers in text is bad, hallucinating that your chest is a drawer to pull open is very bad.

The thing in the video moves slower than the sloth in Zootopia. If you die by that robot, you probably deserve it.

From a different robot (Boston Dynamics' new Atlas) - the system moves at a "reasonable" speed. But watch at 1m20s in this video[1]. You can see it bump and then move VERY quickly -- with speed that would certainly damage something, or hurt someone.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_7IPm7f1vI

Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Post by mistercheph »

sho_hn wrote: post #91
wwwtyro wrote: post #15

Until we get robots with really good hands, something I'd love in the interim is a system that uses _me_ as the hands. When it's time to put groceries away, I don't want to have to think about how to organize everything. Just figure out which grocery items I have, what storage I have available, come up with an optimized organization solution, then tell me where to put things, one at a time. I'm cautiously optimistic…

Dunno, I would not want to bleed my mental faculties for doing even simple planning work like this by outsourcing it to AI. Reliance on crutches like this would seem like a pathway to early-onset dementia.

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Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Post by mistercheph »

__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #55
camjw wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I don't understand exactly what you're describing but why would anyone pay for this? When I bring home the shopping I just... chuck stuff in the cupboards. I already know where it all goes. Maybe you can explain more?

It would be nice to be able to select a recipe and have it populate your shopping list based on what is currently in your cupboards. If you just chuck stuff in the cupboards then you have to be home to know what they contain. Or you could wear it while you cook and it could give you nutrition information for whatever it is you cooked. Armed with that it could make recommendations about what nutrients you're likely de…

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Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Post by andiareso »

Seriously, what's with all of these perceived "high-end" tech companies not doing static content worth a damn.

Stop hosting your videos as MP4s on your web-server. Either publish to a CDN or use a platform like YouTube. Your bandwidth cannot handle serving high resolution MP4s.

/rant

Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Post by meindnoch »

swalsh wrote: post #60

At this point, this is enough autonomy to have a set of these guys man a howitzer (read as old stockpiles of weapons we already have). Kind of a scary thought. On one hand, I think the idea of moving real people out of danger in war is a good idea, and as an American i'd want Americans to have an edge... and we can't guarantee our enemies won't take it if we skip it, on the other hand I have a visceral reaction to ma…

So you're concerned about remote operated howitzers? Autoloaders and remote control land vehicles have existed for 40 or so years by now. If we wanted remote controlled howitzers we could have fielded them already.

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Post by verytrivial »

Are they claiming these robots are also silent? They seem to have "crinkle" sounds handling packaging, which if added in post seems needlessly smoke-and-mirror for what was a very impressive demonstration (of robots impersonating an extreme stoned human.)

Re: Helix: A vision-language-action model for generalist humanoid control

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Post by gigel82 »

mclau156 wrote: post #100
ziofill wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, but a robot will work 24/7, not 2h byweekly -_-

do you need a robot to work in your house 24/7?

Why not? If it's done with all the chores, I can have it make some silly woodworking / art project for Etsy to earn its keep, or just loan it out to neighbors.
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