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Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

echelon wrote: post #57
rideontime wrote: post #12

I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

I'm predominantly a Ubuntu / Mac user (roughly 60/40). My Windows machine has seen an uptick in use over the last months for development purposes, but it's still stuck on Windows 10. I don't think I need or want to upgrade it. Two questions: - Do I need to upgrade it? - How do I get comfortable with Windows shell? PowerShell doesn't do Unixisms. There are too many shells. Command Prompt / CMD, PowerShell, there's som…

I personally will never migrate to Windows 11, EOL or not. I'll keep using it for games that I can't get to work under Linux even after it is EOL, until Valve stops supporting it for Steam. At that point I'll delete the partition and never look back.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by dailykoder »

the__alchemist wrote: post #9

How do they deal with not having file browser tabs?!

That feature never made sense to me and I always disable it on my GNU+Linux, if I encounter it. Almost always when I want to open 2 different file locations, is because I want to copy files from one folder to another and because I am a lazy lad, i'll just do it by drag and drop. This just works perfectly fine with two windows. Not sure what I would need tabs for. But I also don't care if they exist. Maybe some users like them.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by ThatPlayer »

tombert wrote: post #59
pjmlp wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wine wasn't seen as a threat as SteamOS can be against Windows/XBox handhelds. Think of how Microsoft quickly killed the Linux based netbooks, when they really started paying attention, then the new tablets market did the rest.

That's fair, I guess I thought you meant suing out of existence. It's tough to say. Annoying Linux people like me tend to have horse-blinders on towards the rest of the world (hence the constant meme of the "Year of the Linux Desktop"), so it's tough for me to speculate with any kind of objectivity. That said, Steam Decks seem to be selling pretty well, and people don't seem to mind the SteamOS part of it. I think th…

> Steam Decks seem to be selling pretty well, and people don't seem to mind the SteamOS part of it.

I think part of that is because of its form factor already limiting the device. Like how Android and iOS are fine on a phone or tablet, but I doubt most people would want it on a desktop computer.

Not talking about the Linux part, but the real test with the Deck is whether or not it'll stay a target platform with its low performance and Valve not releasing a Deck 2 anytime soon. Valve's Steam Deck verified program already checks performance on games and newer games like Horizon Forbidden West and Indiana Jones and the Great Circle are failing.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by daft_pink »

rideontime wrote: post #12

I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

Basically GPU access in WSL was the only feature I was interested in, but I find the forced onedrive to be super annoying etc, etc. I’m considering paying for the long term version of Office for each of my devices just to not have their stupid cloud features.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by Narishma »

kbolino wrote: post #89
echelon wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm predominantly a Ubuntu / Mac user (roughly 60/40). My Windows machine has seen an uptick in use over the last months for development purposes, but it's still stuck on Windows 10. I don't think I need or want to upgrade it. Two questions: - Do I need to upgrade it? - How do I get comfortable with Windows shell? PowerShell doesn't do Unixisms. There are too many shells. Command Prompt / CMD, PowerShell, there's som…

Windows 10 will go EOL in October, so you should probably try to upgrade sometime before next year. The first rule of PowerShell is to install the "real" PowerShell [1] instead of using the one bundled with Windows (which is out of date and importantly doesn't interoperate as well with non-PowerShell commands). I still don't like it, it's way too different from UNIX shells, but at least it's usable. CMD hasn't gotten…

> Windows 10 will go EOL in October, so you should probably try to upgrade sometime before next year.

That's the current plan but it wouldn't surprise me if they change their mind given the large Windows 10 install base still out there. They've done that before with Windows XP and 7.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by mcv »

gs17 wrote: post #53
wlesieutre wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn’t nag you incessantly to upgrade to Windows 11

My Windows 10 install doesn't do that either, although I have no idea why it gave up (AFAIK there's no reason why it wouldn't be compatible).

On my laptop, it doesn't nag me, but it does nag my son sometimes when he logs in. My son is not admin, so I don't know why Windows bothers non-admins with this.

At least I hope non-admins can't upgrade, but knowing MS, maybe they can.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by mcv »

I'm surprised that SteamOS is not listed in the stats. Despite what the article suggests, SteamOS already exists. On the Steam Deck.

Maybe the number of Steam Decks sold is too small to show up in the statistics? Or maybe it reports as Arch, which is the top category of Linux here.

In any case, I'd like to express my gratitude for Steam's excellent Linux support. If anyone is going to usher in the year of the Linux Desktop, it's Steam.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by [deleted] »

echelon wrote: post #57
rideontime wrote: post #12

I've been using Windows 11 without much complaint since its release, but off the top of my head, I can't name a single "feature" that would motivate me to upgrade if I were on Windows 10, besides "continued support."

I'm predominantly a Ubuntu / Mac user (roughly 60/40). My Windows machine has seen an uptick in use over the last months for development purposes, but it's still stuck on Windows 10. I don't think I need or want to upgrade it. Two questions: - Do I need to upgrade it? - How do I get comfortable with Windows shell? PowerShell doesn't do Unixisms. There are too many shells. Command Prompt / CMD, PowerShell, there's som…

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Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by nottorp »

loeg wrote: post #32
nottorp wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well 2 years ago when I built a new desktop i took great care to order hardware that works on windows 11. Then I read the stories saying 11 has even more telemetry that you can't disable, ads on the start menu, Edge that you can't get rid of... and when I got around to setting up Windows on it I ordered a Win 10 license. They're still available even now, I think. Win 10 does try to trick me into upgrading to 11 rando…

> when I got around to setting up Windows on it I ordered a Win 10 license. They're still available even now, I think. The licenses are the same -- you can install Win10 media using a Win11 license key.

> The licenses are the same -- you can install Win10 media using a Win11 license key.

Too great a risk if you ask me.

Re: Nearly half of Steam's users are still using Windows 10

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Post by mcv »

Zhyl wrote: post #85
Lunatic666 wrote: post #55

Why should we wait for SteamOS? I’m using Pop_OS! on my gaming machine and can play all new games with the Steam compatibility mode. Baldur’s Gate 3 and Kingdom Come: Deliverance II work perfectly fine. I was quite surprised that there are no problems at all and happy that I can go Windows free now

The number of times I've seen people waiting for SteamOS makes me kind of excited that there's so much demand for an alternative to Windows, nervous that a SteamOS general release isn't going to live up to expectations and frustration that that "demand" isn't moving to other distros of its own accord or otherwise being captured by someone savvy. I think overall it means that "people", even if they have a more positiv…

Seriously, the moment there's a linux distro that really "just works", even with games on NVidia cards, I think Windows will lose a very large chunk of market share. So many people are sick of it, but most people still fear that stuff won't work right on Linux.

Anyway, Valve is probably the most likely party to pull that off.

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