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Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Post by epakai »

anon291 wrote: post #98
diggan wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Examples: > At the Department of Justice, a database detailing the vast array of criminal charges and successful convictions of January 6 rioters was removed, according to a report from Donie O’Sullivan and Katelyn Polantz at CNN > Several pages on the Center for Disease Control have also been removed, including information on LGBTQ+ rights, HIV and adolescent health, reports Will Stone and Selena Simmons-Duffin from…

> At the Department of Justice, a database detailing the vast array of criminal charges and successful convictions of January 6 rioters was removed, according to a report from Donie O’Sullivan and Katelyn Polantz at CNN Like it or hate it, they're all pardoned now and don't have a criminal record.

Pardons are usually forgiveness. They add to the record rather than erase it.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Post by dubbel »

anon291 wrote: post #98
diggan wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Examples: > At the Department of Justice, a database detailing the vast array of criminal charges and successful convictions of January 6 rioters was removed, according to a report from Donie O’Sullivan and Katelyn Polantz at CNN > Several pages on the Center for Disease Control have also been removed, including information on LGBTQ+ rights, HIV and adolescent health, reports Will Stone and Selena Simmons-Duffin from…

> At the Department of Justice, a database detailing the vast array of criminal charges and successful convictions of January 6 rioters was removed, according to a report from Donie O’Sullivan and Katelyn Polantz at CNN Like it or hate it, they're all pardoned now and don't have a criminal record.

If I interpret [1] correctly, then they still have a criminal record?

"Please also be aware that if you were to be granted a presidential pardon, the pardoned offense would not be removed from your criminal record. Instead, both the federal conviction as well as the pardon would both appear on your record."

[1]: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/frequently-asked-questions

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Post by Xen9 »

anon291 wrote: post #99
bloomingkales wrote: post #26

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Found one for ya: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcla7WoWIpQ The USAID Office of Transition Initiatives (USAID/OTI) began its program in Haiti in January 2010 as part of the post-earthquake response, supporting short- and medium-term activities aimed at stabilizing Haiti through support for community revitalization, improved governance, and economic strengthening.

USAID, the UN, and these other NGOs often make life worse in the receiving country. This is very hard for Americans to grasp because we're so charitable individually and thus feel our nation should be as well, but these NGOs interests are not aligned with the average American and they're certainly not aligned with the receiving country's. One need only look at the stability of recipients of USAID money v those countr…

Even with all the social & economical issues within & outside of the U.S., they should in my view occupy the power vacuum for the time being. The real issue is then not that U.S. is evil, but that you cannot both be the tyrant playing zero sum with China & Russia, and the gentleman.

Security wise U.S. cannot even if they can intervene with socially bad policy except to prevent widespread civil arrest etc which is why CIA exists. U.S. pre-emptive wars were good for the military-industrial apparatus that keeps them in power & made sure others can't get those places. In global strategy terms, I suspevt Web3 & DeFi should be seen as an economical third party that reduces Chinese & Russian share of the Western economical pie at times dollar weakens.

The public can never understand that you need to be "though" to win because might makes right in statescraft & geopoli, so the U.S has to censor the internet including inside NATO to prevent economical ties' risk of dying due political pressure. It's understandable. If the game is played classified, and most humans hesitate to pull a gun's trigger, they have no idea about the world inside the entities that protect them. They cannot see that it's a very very zero-sum world, hobbesian world.

This is different from human history because WWII ±25 years we boiled over the techno-industrial pot, and nowadays all of the seemingly evil work of US & its agencies is, actually, necessary for the survival of mankind.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Post by bloomingkales »

snakeyjake wrote: post #83
soupbowl wrote: post #82

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Nice! Now do Biden/Harris supporters.

No. Every time someone says or implies "bOtH sIdEs" a hungry child gets kicked out of a free and reduced school lunch program and called a parasite.

https://www.foodandwine.com/free-school-lunch-programs-matte...

Can you believe we are having to write articles like this in America in 2025? It’s embarrassing, but alas, we have to do it.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Post by n4r9 »

ocuild wrote: post #97
exe34 wrote: post #96

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I've met plenty of trans men and women that I wouldn't have known they were trans if they didn't tell me. What kind of effort are you thinking about in this case? What about the women who are really butch? Or the effeminate men? Would you want them excluded too, or would a genital inspection be considered sufficient to qualify them?

The broadest one is that new definitions of woman and man have been imposed which not just accommodate people who sometimes manage to successfully masquerade as the opposite sex (like some of the people you've met) but the ones who do not do so at all. According to these new definitions, merely stating that you're a woman or man (or somehow, neither) is enough to make it real. This has been used to rewrite law and po…

> any man who claims he's a woman can, with impunity, impose himself upon spaces that were only ever intended for women and girls

The military policy (that I assume you're defending) is to ban anyone with a "history of gender dysphoria". Your points would have a little more weight if the situation was like in 2018 when individuals could serve under the condition of being stable for 18 months in their identified or assigned gender. But not much more weight, since that is still a lot weaker than what you describe.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Post by curt15 »

diggan wrote: post #34
misja111 wrote: post #33

Does anybody have an example of federal data that has disappeared already? I'm interested what kind of data it's about.

Examples: > At the Department of Justice, a database detailing the vast array of criminal charges and successful convictions of January 6 rioters was removed, according to a report from Donie O’Sullivan and Katelyn Polantz at CNN > Several pages on the Center for Disease Control have also been removed, including information on LGBTQ+ rights, HIV and adolescent health, reports Will Stone and Selena Simmons-Duffin from…

The folks r/datahoarders have been trying to get ahead of the war on information.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/1icstrv/the_de...

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Post by grey8 »

misja111 wrote: post #33

Does anybody have an example of federal data that has disappeared already? I'm interested what kind of data it's about.

To preface: I randomly stumbled upon this because I looked up info.

... and saw that at least this page containing information regarding an USAID grant is now 404ing.

Look at this:

https://foreignaffairs.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/...

It is a letter from republicans about the USAID grant some report to be "for spreading atheism in ethiopia" (it's not).

They quote this link in the footnotes:

https://www.state.gov/statements-of-interest-requests-for-pr...

This now leads to a 404.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Post by CamperBob2 »

mschuster91 wrote: post #77
bloomingkales wrote: post #28

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It is important to note that pre-WW1, Germany was considered to be one of the most sophisticated societies in the world. That's where everyone worth a shit with a mind wanted to be. It's quite curious how the best were corrupted.

That was due to the loss of the war and the followup economic devastation brought by the reparation payments that caused a lot of issues in the economy at large, followed by the 1918 flu pandemic that also caused serious issues (and with 25M dead, even more death than WW1 itself!). One might be tempted to again draw parallels to today's situation in the US, with the US having lost the war in Afghanistan as well as ev…

One might be tempted to again draw parallels to today's situation in the US, with the US having lost the war in Afghanistan as well as everyone having suffered through years of Covid.

Not disputing your point, but what blows me away is just how unapt your comparison is. We didn't 'lose' the war in Afghanistan. We chose not to fight it aggressively and eventually got bored with it, and then Biden let himself get rope-a-doped into following Trump's plan for unwinding it. Whatever, no biggie, we're over it.

And COVID was nothing like losing a world war. The very notion is ridiculous. Inflation in the US during COVID reached 12%. Inflation in the Weimar Republic reached 12 digits.

And yet we voted like a country with no options left. Like a country that had been destroyed and saddled with the bill by the victors... like a pariah nation full of desperate, starving people with nothing to lose. We fell for the first con man to come along waving a Bible and blaming somebody else.

What would things be like in America now if we actually had faced a genuine crisis like Germany's post-WWI downfall? My guess is, we're about to find out... because that's what we just voted for.

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Post by zmgsabst »

fzeroracer wrote: post #73
zmgsabst wrote: post #63

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I think you're avoiding the point. These are individuals that have otherwise already passed military training and fitness tests to determine whether or not they are able to participate and function as soldiers. They are actively a part of our military and being thrown out.

I can’t find anything to support that.

The order as quoted refers to new joins:

> “Effective immediately, all new accessions for individuals with a history of gender dysphoria are paused,” Hegseth said in a memo dated Feb. 7 and filed on Monday with the U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C.

Which is consistent with Trump’s order from his first term that allowed transgender troops already serving to remain.

The only quote on current troops I found was:

> Hegseth said individuals with gender dysphoria already in the military would be “treated with dignity and respect,” and the under secretary of defense for personnel and readiness would provide additional details on what this would mean.

Do you have a source for that claim?

Re: Federal data is disappearing. On Thursday, meet the teams working to rescue it

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Post by zmgsabst »

n4r9 wrote: post #74
zmgsabst wrote: post #67

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A single person's allegation of being passed over is a long way from proving that DEI policies contributed to staffing shortages. Moreover the audio from the recordings shows that the helicopter was warned and advised to avoid the plane, suggesting that staff shortages were not a crucial factor.

It’s a class action, ie, not a single plaintiff.

If you want to discuss the helicopter in particular, there’s also questions why a pilot who had been in multiple desk jobs for multiple years was flying a high risk route like that — and the possible reasons the military promoted her and allowed her to attempt this with questionable competency.

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