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Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

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Re: Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

#101
post #81

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Meh, Lidl sells 3200w kettles.

Where are the three phase models?? Seriously though, a 15A kettle sounds great.

Photonicinduction's 10-second kettle[1] managed about 10kW max (took around 5s to boil water) for a short time, 440V 23A. Then the resistance dropped, it went up to 16kW (426V 33A) and popped. 7-8kW (375V 19A to 400V 20A) seemed more sustainable.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDLw1Rx_cAI

Re: Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

#103
It took a few tries, but I got Wolfram Alpha to compute its velocity compared to the speed of light[1].

I started with:

    sqrt(1-((1/(1+120 PeV / (neutrino mass * c^2)))^2))
but it simply said "data not available". So I changed:

    120 PeV to 120e15 * 1.602176634e-19 kg m^2 s^-2
    neutrino mass to 1.25e-37kg
    speed of light to 299792458 m/s
and finally it gave a numeric result:

    0.999999999999999999999999999999999999829277971
(that's 36 nines in a row). Pasting it in Google says the value is "1", which is… not far off.

If you want details about the way this is calculated, I dug up the formula from an article I'd written about particle velocities in the LHC, back in 2008[2]. For comparison, their 7 TeV protons were going at 0.999999991 × c.

[1] https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=sqrt%281-%28%281%2F%281...

[2] https://log.kv.io/post/2008/09/12/lhc-how-fast-do-these-prot...

Re: Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

#104

For context, 120 PeV is about 10% the kinetic energy of a ping pong ball during typical play.

the way I play ping pong (holding the paddle like an ice cream stick)? or the way a professional ping pong player plays (which probably means they are serving aces on me all day)?

Re: Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

#105
post #92

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> Which defaults to float64, which is IEEE precision, exactly what the article warns about…… I mean, seriously? It has native support for arbitrary precision operations. RTFM.

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Re: Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

#106

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Oddly another detector caught a burst of low energy neutrinos that came a few hours before the burst that everyone accepts was from 1987a https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S092765051... Low energy tachyons would go a little faster, but you've got the additional problem of explaining why neutrinos got emitted in a spectral line.

That is weird. Is the conventional explanation a flash from one of the last fusion stages right before core collapse?

The core collapse itself produces most of the neutrinos. All of these protons are squeezed together with electrons which produces neutrons and neutrinos.

Re: Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

#107
post #103

It took a few tries, but I got Wolfram Alpha to compute its velocity compared to the speed of light[1]. I started with: sqrt(1-((1/(1+120 PeV / (neutrino mass * c^2)))^2)) but it simply said "data not available". So I changed: 120 PeV to 120e15 * 1.602176634e-19 kg m^2 s^-2 neutrino mass to 1.25e-37kg speed of light to 299792458 m/s and finally it gave a numeric result: 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999829277971…

We don't know the neutrino's masses, so this is a lower limit for v (since the mass you used is an upper limit)

Re: Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

#108
post #103

It took a few tries, but I got Wolfram Alpha to compute its velocity compared to the speed of light[1]. I started with: sqrt(1-((1/(1+120 PeV / (neutrino mass * c^2)))^2)) but it simply said "data not available". So I changed: 120 PeV to 120e15 * 1.602176634e-19 kg m^2 s^-2 neutrino mass to 1.25e-37kg speed of light to 299792458 m/s and finally it gave a numeric result: 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999829277971…

I can see it came from your source but why is the neutrino mass specified in kg instead of g? why not 1.25e-34g?

Re: Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

#109

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Neutrinos “interact with regular matter so rarely that it's estimated you'd need about a light-year of lead to completely block a bright source of them. Every one of us has tens of trillions of neutrinos passing through us every second, but fewer than five of them actually interact with the matter in our bodies in our entire lifetimes.” They have 1/500,000 the mass of electrons. They interact only through the super s…

These rare interactions with matter are also a cause of concern in voting machines, right? Or at least it was a concern at one point. A random bit being flipped or something.

It is mostly a problem of DRAM memory cells, though theoretically with enough energy it could flip SRAM cells to or override the driver of a given wire. It is not specific to voting machines.

But the main source is from cosmic rays and local radiation sources in the ceramic packaging and/or decaying elements in the metal frame/leads/solder.

Re: Record-breaking neutrino is most energetic ever detected

#110
post #72

For context, 120 PeV is about 10% the kinetic energy of a ping pong ball during typical play.

Does this count as "Americans will measure with anything but the metric system"?

Are you implying that people who use the metric system have an intuitive sense of what 120 PeV means?
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