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Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Notably a steep discount from their recent raise at a 157B. The board would never approve.

Yes, seems like a PR stunt to discount OpenAI.

Hardly Musk's first attempt at blatant market manipulation. Hell, that was how he got stuck holding the bag with Twitter

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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It feels like Musk is single-handedly making a great case for why unlimited accumulation of wealth is a bad idea.

It's pretty colorful language, but my mind immediately jumps to "financial terrorist". He's using his enormous amount of wealth and influence as a weapon to bludgeon anyone and anything in his way.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering musks history, its also possible he doesn't actually want the deal and is doing it for other reasons. While I think the purchase of Twitter was ultimately in his favor, he definitely had buyers remorse back then.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/07/softbank-set-to-invest-40-bi... By sending the message that he wants to buy at 97B, he could imply that 260B is clearly exaggerated and create fear for these investors.

distillate is a noun, not a verb

Edit: I love the edit, it's very straightforward now!

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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I only call it Twitter because I’m not gonna say “X” it just sounds stupid.

It seems like everyone calling it x.com would allow people to use the name without having to know the history or be confused by just calling something X. Kind of how pets.com was always called pets.com, because just calling something "pets" would be confusing.

It's "X, the everything app", said with an exhausted sneer.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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OpenAI is not worth more than 9.74 billion, considering their moat is steadily shrinking and their models aren't even open. Even if OpenAI produces their chips via TSMC, it means that at least AMD can do the same, if not anyone else with just 100 million to spend.

OpenAI is the 6th most popular website in the world and if someone's going to kill Google, it's them. If they IPO'd today, they'd easily be worth hundreds of billions if not more.

Who in their right mind would put money into OpenAI with DeepSeek out there dumping its better models for free with no license restrictions?

Anyone with enough hardware can run the model and run a competing service for less.

Many companies currently using OpenAI are considering alternative cheaper and better options.

The OpenAI moat has been filled in.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Do you really think Musk actually does anything of value?

He's keeping TSLA's stock price afloat with endless bluster. That's worth probably 500 billion on its own.

Most unfireable CEO ever despite very obviously harming the company more than working there. If they replaced him with someone who would actually work for Tesla the Robotaxi/Optimus stories would not longer hold water (probably the first thing CEO would do was reset expectations so they don't get blamed for the lies) and it would quickly be valued way less than Toyota.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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> Elon's offer to purchase the OpenAI nonprofit for $97.4billion isn't going to happen, but it may seriously complicate OpenAI's efforts to claim the nonprofit is fairly valued at $40billion. If you won't sell it for $97.4billion, that means you think it's worth more than that. https://x.com/KelseyTuoc/status/1889064215710941594

Given musk’s history (“funding secured” to take Tesla private; trying to back out of buying twitter), OpenAI can make a reasonable case that he’s full of shit and it’s not a real offer.

He tried to claw back Twitter because tech stocks tanked, but he did have the funding to make the purchase (obviously). I don't think this is a good example. Besides, this is a real consortium, not a oneoff Tweet.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering musks history, its also possible he doesn't actually want the deal and is doing it for other reasons. While I think the purchase of Twitter was ultimately in his favor, he definitely had buyers remorse back then.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/07/softbank-set-to-invest-40-bi... By sending the message that he wants to buy at 97B, he could imply that 260B is clearly exaggerated and create fear for these investors.

That's hilariously nonsensical.

Hey Sam, I'll buy it for tree-fiddy, good luck getting anyone to invest at a bigger valuation now!

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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I hope we will not see consolidation in this space but instead many competing services. I want a future where I will pay my AI money to someone else than the current set of billionaires.

I want a future where I don't need to pay anyone to do my computing.

Re: Musk-led group makes $97B bid for control of OpenAI

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I don't like petty internet arguments, I can't help appreciate him referring to it as Twitter.

I only call it Twitter because I’m not gonna say “X” it just sounds stupid.

Yes, and I think of the "X Window System" often when "X" is mentioned, doh!
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