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Re: CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading as a security service'

#102

Google addressed the claims in this paper last year, and one of the authors challenged the company's responses. See: https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/24/googles_recaptchav2_l...

As of two weeks ago my locked down Firefox profile gets hit with captchas on every visit to Google search. DDG has also gone to shit with captchas and stupid low cache lifetime because I use their non-javascript site. I'm giving Bing a test run before making the leap to Kagi.

Try also Startpage, it doesn't give me any captchas even though I am a career criminal: guilty of adblocking under Firefox influence, while commiting a VPN. They also have a nice Anonymous view.

Re: CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading as a security service'

#105

Google addressed the claims in this paper last year, and one of the authors challenged the company's responses. See: https://www.theregister.com/2024/07/24/googles_recaptchav2_l...

As of two weeks ago my locked down Firefox profile gets hit with captchas on every visit to Google search. DDG has also gone to shit with captchas and stupid low cache lifetime because I use their non-javascript site. I'm giving Bing a test run before making the leap to Kagi.

You might want to try Mullvad Leta, it's what i use for this issue. I would try Kagi if it could be used privately but i suppose it still requires an account and has no way to pay privately

Re: CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading as a security service'

#106
post #84

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Regulate against inaccessible and privacy invasive CAPTCHA (done and done in EU) and regulate against disruptive bot traffic (what's the hold-up there? Oh, I see, it requires actual competent law enforcement... That's a hard one). Me only half-joking while standing on my high EU horse .

Have you seen this: https://trog.qgl.org/20081217/the-why-your-anti-spam-idea-wo... ? You're proposing a legislative change, and bots in the US, Russia, China, whatever can care less about the acts of the EU parliament. I also don't see how EU solves issues with CAPTCHAs. Anonymous CAPTCHAs are allowed in the EU.

If you are a EU government wanting a no-captcha experience on your website you could solve it thusly:

* Don't have captcha.

* Make it illegal for bots to access.

* Block foreign ips.

* Make it illegal to provide a proxy for foreign bots.

Re: CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading as a security service'

#107
post #37

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My government's websites require solving a reCAPTCHA for basic services, which is horrifying. They also use Cloudflare which blocks me sometimes. This is in the EU

Name and shame, please!! ReCAPTCHA due lack of opt out is effectively illegal in the EU.

If it's "effectively" illegal can you name a single court decision saying so?

Re: CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading as a security service'

#108
post #63
post #17

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At an approx 750,000 hours in a human lifespan, they wasted 1100 human lives in totality. Unbelievable.

There's a dystopian short story in your comment about AI that can't self-bootstrap without ground-truth from humans, so they keep us around just to mark images, music, etc. Lives wasted annotating things. I like to think they'd drag us from solar system to solar system for this purpose.

So that's what they are doing inside the pods in The Matrix!

Re: CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading as a security service'

#109
post #106
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you seen this: https://trog.qgl.org/20081217/the-why-your-anti-spam-idea-wo... ? You're proposing a legislative change, and bots in the US, Russia, China, whatever can care less about the acts of the EU parliament. I also don't see how EU solves issues with CAPTCHAs. Anonymous CAPTCHAs are allowed in the EU.

If you are a EU government wanting a no-captcha experience on your website you could solve it thusly: * Don't have captcha. * Make it illegal for bots to access. * Block foreign ips. * Make it illegal to provide a proxy for foreign bots.

Yeah, that's great until you're a european citizen who needs to access a government service while travelling in the US, or living in French Guyana, or any amount of exceptions to your clever idea.

Re: CAPTCHAs: 'a tracking cookie farm for profit masquerading as a security service'

#110
post #106
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you seen this: https://trog.qgl.org/20081217/the-why-your-anti-spam-idea-wo... ? You're proposing a legislative change, and bots in the US, Russia, China, whatever can care less about the acts of the EU parliament. I also don't see how EU solves issues with CAPTCHAs. Anonymous CAPTCHAs are allowed in the EU.

If you are a EU government wanting a no-captcha experience on your website you could solve it thusly: * Don't have captcha. * Make it illegal for bots to access. * Block foreign ips. * Make it illegal to provide a proxy for foreign bots.

Also confirming that banning foreign traffic is the go-to eGovernment without CAPTCHA experience in Bulgaria.
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