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20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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It's an even better deal if it gets torn up after a month. You get a one month paid vacation and then go back to work.

You’ve already resigned…

But that resignation was part of a larger deal. If the deal is thrown out, shouldn't the resignation be thrown out too?

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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> Is it a given there would be a budget impasse, if all institutions of power are held by Republicans? I’m not an expert on this topic, so please take these comments with a grain of salt: 1. The simplest way a budget impasse could start is with internal feuding within the Republican Party. Some Republicans are very aggressive deficit hawks all the time. Some Republicans are only “deficit hawks” when a Democrat is pre…

Also, the last House was wracked with all sorts of deadlock because the Republican majority was only 5 representatives, and having 5 splinter off was incredibly easy. The current House has an even smaller majority of 2 currently, so it's now infinitely more possible for a deadlock to happen.

See, for instance, how long it took them to elect a speaker.

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Doubt it... You'd be a fool to think you'd actually get the money

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Who is going to enforce the law? Trump appointed judges? Even if the lawsuits are successful, our system depends on the Executive branch respecting the verdict.

At least during his last term you had Republicans on both the state and federal levels who weren’t sycophants. They’ve all died, retired or are now kissing the ring.

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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> The buyout offer entitles federal employees to stop working more or less immediately and continue to be paid through Sept. 30. > The federal workforce's normal attrition rate is about 6% a year, meaning some of those who've taken the buyout may have been planning to leave government service anyway. Wow, talk about an amazing deal if you already happened to be planning on leaving...

Pretty standard government worker deal. I am not crying too many tears over government workers facing just a smidge of the uncertainty that everyone else has been living with since Covid. Your salary/promotions/healthcare/retirement are no longer guaranteed by just doing enough to not get fired (which is almost impossible)? Boo hoo, Welcome to the reality that everyone else in the world works in. In tech we are scrabbling for jobs, navigating layoffs, and fighting tooth and nail to prove we create value and justify our salaries. I don't think it is cruel to request "public servants" do the same.

8 months paid would be an insane deal for private industry layoffs. We all just get a sad email and some well wishes.

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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I think the adminstration's plan to execute on this is basically garden leave. They tell the "retiring" employees to stop working, but keep them on the payroll so they keep getting paid. This administration has been playing a lot of games with "budgeted" vs. "delayed" vs. "actively being worked on" (or not). So this isn't really that different than the abrupt cancellations or delays or re-org'ing of funded and legisl…

That sounds illegal

Garden leaves are done all the times in the private sector.

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

#107

My personal and probably not unique prediction is that these people will be let go and not be paid - same thing he did with twitter.

It is worth looking back at President Musk's previous actions here. I know the twitter engineers sued. Was it ever settled?

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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Doubt it... You'd be a fool to think you'd actually get the money

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OK so? Do you think the president has to obey the laws? Will the FBI arrest him if they don't? What do you think the consequence will realistically be?

Re: 20k federal workers take "buyout" so far, official says

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You’ve already resigned…

But that resignation was part of a larger deal. If the deal is thrown out, shouldn't the resignation be thrown out too?

And what happens when you try to come back to work? Will Musk pay you or allow you into the office? He literally has control of the federal budget for payments now.

We are getting into banana republic territory now with no rule of law.

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