Maybe introduce a security team instead of building a browser and email on top of your search
Fair Pricing
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#102Unfortunately, I will never be able to take advantage of this policy, For the very reason that I have kagi Set as my exclusive search engine on every single device that I own, And there's no way that I could go even a Day, let alone a month, without using this fantastic service. Keep up the good work guys!
I'm in exactly the same situation as you.
I would really struggle going back to not having bad sites suppressed in search results!
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#103I trialed Kagi. I liked it, the results were good, no ads, gave me access to Google without being tracked. I would pay for that, except they block Tor, and I normally use Tor.
> gave me access to Google without being tracked Hint: you can use Google in private mode. And unless you block all trackers almost all sites will still use analytics so Google knows what you read.
> unless you block all trackers almost all sites will still use analytics so Google knows what you read.
That's like driving without light and seat belt. Should be very obvious to every HN reader, that a content (ad) blocker is the first thing you install
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#104Unfortunately, I will never be able to take advantage of this policy, For the very reason that I have kagi Set as my exclusive search engine on every single device that I own, And there's no way that I could go even a Day, let alone a month, without using this fantastic service. Keep up the good work guys!
My pitch to friends is that it’s like Google used to be before they started adding all the crap to their results and ignoring your search terms.
Really, it’s even better than that given the full feature set.
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#105The one area that'd make kagi thousands of dollars from me and the apps I use would be to lower their APO searches to a sane price. Currently they charge 2.5c for an API search. This is between 1,000 to 1,000,000 times more than other companies in the space charge. AI systems need to do dozens of searches for every question to get good results and kagi's results are really good. But not 1,000,000 times better than th…
I love kagi, but indeed I am a bit concerned of long term usefulness/sustainability of their model if they do not manage to reduce their search costs.
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#106Would love to see Kagi and Mozilla to collaborate.
Could be problematic since Kagi keeps paying Yandex/Russia and there's sanctions you know...
I weekly monitor for news that they somehow allow using Kagi without Yandex. Still hurts after nearly 2 years of Kagi using to drop them. Without using Yandex at least I could convince myself that my money at least directly won't flow to Russia. I could revisit the idea of using Kagi again.
Thanks for pointing it out, people mostly don't speak about it anymore.
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#107The one area that'd make kagi thousands of dollars from me and the apps I use would be to lower their APO searches to a sane price. Currently they charge 2.5c for an API search. This is between 1,000 to 1,000,000 times more than other companies in the space charge. AI systems need to do dozens of searches for every question to get good results and kagi's results are really good. But not 1,000,000 times better than th…
I love kagi, but indeed I am a bit concerned of long term usefulness/sustainability of their model if they do not manage to reduce their search costs.
We are rapidly approaching the point where using an embedding model to run over the whole internet will be the best way to rank search results.
At that point all the special sauce Google et al have spend decades mastering will be worth as much as expertise in analogue computers is today.
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#108I trialed Kagi. I liked it, the results were good, no ads, gave me access to Google without being tracked. I would pay for that, except they block Tor, and I normally use Tor.
Heya, this is Zac from Kagi. We do not block Tor - in fact, we recently launched our own self-hosted Tor node[1]. We have had problems with GCP blocking VPN and Tor traffic (mostly the former) when we have made zero configuration to do so. It's quite frustrating, and we have been working with their support to improve this generally. Haven't heard anyone having issues with Tor since we set up the node though :) If you…
Good - looks like Kagi will be on the menu.
Note that URL is 403, from Tor browser.
Works fine from non-Tor.
(I'm now experimenting with the Kagi hidden service.)
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#109I like such moves by companies. It seems fair and stands out compared to most others who’d just take money even if the service is unused.
I’m not a Kagi subscriber though. The USD 150 and USD 216 a year prices for family duo and family are quite high for many geographies. Hopefully Kagi scales its customer base and is able to provide affordable plans.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not just free money. I'm pretty sure the lions' share of any streaming service's income is from users that are subscribed but don't consume everything for that month. Their business model relies on this.
I think this is a vast overestimation. The majority of people notice every payment they make every month, a Netflix subscription is a choice that they would not continue to make if they were not using Netflix. Those of us who can afford to pay Netflix whether we watch it or not are the minority of wealthy people. I think you would be surprised to learn how many normal people juggle different subscriptions by cancelli…
I think both statements are somewhat true. And we can look to COVID to see some evidence of this because when everyone was suddenly home and wanting to consume TV, Netflix had to lower the bit rate on even their premium tier to keep up with demand.
If Netflix wasn’t relying on a degree of inactivity with in their infrastructure then they wouldn’t have needed to lower the bit rates.
It makes sense, when you think about it. Over provisioning is a common practice when dealing with expensive finite resources. For example ISPs have been doing this for decades, offering households higher individual bandwidth than is available if every household within a local radius was to fully max out their throughput. VMWare also offers this to allow individual VM to consume more RAM than the total available on the host.
The key is not to over provision so much that it becomes noticeable under “normal spikes” — and I think we can all agree that COVID was anything but normal.