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Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by stevenwoo »

heavyset_go wrote: post #79
maplant wrote: post #5

I had no idea this was a campaign promise. Why? I don’t understand.

Wouldn't be surprised if he is sitting on a billion dollars of hidden crypto somewhere.

If you meant Trump, it's not hidden, they released a Trump meme coin and the rug pull was after the inauguration timed with the release of the Melania meme coin, though entirely speculatively makes more sense for the investors to be foreign governments buying influence less obviously than the last Trump administration like Saudi Arabia hiring his son in law.

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by ty6853 »

bb88 wrote: post #68

Genuine question: Of all the people to pardon, why him?

What do you mean? Trump just pardoned or commuted pretty much all of the J6 crowd. One guy convicted of crimes that don't require proving violence beyond a reasonable doubt is pretty tame in comparison. He is one of thousands.

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by jsphweid »

From wikipedia:

> "full and unconditional pardon for any crimes related to drugs".

Does "any crimes related to drugs" include the murder for hire allegations? Does this mean new charges related to that could be brought against him?

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by rcpt »

FergusArgyll wrote: post #91

This thread is a great lesson in "Politics is a mind virus" I recommend you read the HN thread when Ulbricht was sentenced [0] first, then come here and read all the "Honest, genuine question, why?"s Then start practicing not letting politics influence your thought process https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9626985

The main thing I notice is that back then we were writing paragraphs.

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by macinjosh »

l0ng1nu5 wrote: post #14
yuppiepuppie wrote: post #8

Wasn’t he in jail for hiring a contract killer? I’m all for the freeing him of his crimes when it comes to his crypto anarchic philosophy. But I find it hard to pardon someone for contract killing essentially. Also I’m not an apologist for the FBIs handling of this case either.

I haven't reviewed the info for a while but it was pretty clearly entrapment as I recall.

Yes the FBI had root or admin access to the Silk Road system and could have very easily changed or otherwise affected logs/record IDs that the technical case rested on. Two of the FBI agents on the case were later punished for corruption on the case.

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by croissants »

fzeroracer wrote: post #61

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A possible line of reasoning is that drugs should be legal, but the property and violent crimes committed around them shouldn't be, in the same way that adults are legally permitted to drink alcohol, but they're not legally permitted to drive drunk. The "ruining cities" is about the crimes, not the drugs themselves.

(I think.)

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by potato3732842 »

qqqult wrote: post #88
kevinsync wrote: post #54

I have nothing in particular to say about the dead comments in this very young thread, but they're sort-of-interesting comments to have been killed so quickly! Is it due to HN policy? I guess they're subjective and ideological, and prone to starting arguments rather than debates. Maybe "Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity." or "Please don't pick the most provocati…

Nothing wrong with HN in particular. Every polarising discussion on a platform with moderation or up/down voting system ends up this way. This structure is fantastic for technical discussions just not amazing for politics Removing moderation or voting systems (simple chronological comment sorting) creates another set of issues so this problem can't be solved without entirely changing discussion formats

> This structure is fantastic for technical discussions just not amazing for politics

No, it's not. Because the same magnification effect causes the causal, simple and correct sounding to float to the top and the nuanced " so I dealt with this for 20yr and here's the deal" takes that nobody wants to hear because they're not simple and easy wind up at the bottom but above the flagrantly wrong crap and the trolls.

There's a reason that nothing with real stakes adopts this format and technical discussions that matter still mostly happen in some sort of threaded format that doesn't allow voting or any sort of drive-by low effort interaction to effect much.

Format like this is good for driving interaction, which is why public facing websites use it for their comment sections.

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