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How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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I immediately assumed this article was about the French movie Le Corniaud (1965) in which a 2CV falls apart in 250 pieces in an accident—this scene specifically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnLj5Xo4zBc&t=19s It became one of the most iconic scene of French comedy movies. To prepare the scene, the special effects engineer sawed off the car in 250 pieces, reattached every piece with hooks, and secured the hooks wit…

I also thought first about the 2CV in Le Corniaud (1965) :)

I had no idea that explosives were involved!

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

#102
post #72

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Your position is similar to why I stopped watched NFL games. I get that players choose to play (for money), but at the end of the day, I am unwilling to contribute to brain damage.

I think there's a pretty big difference between long-term brain damage and bruises though. Stuntpeople aren't getting blows to the head, generally speaking.

That is not what the research shows. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9835670/

“One hundred seventy-three performers (80%) indicated at least one head impact/head whip during their stunt career. Of these, 86% exhibited concussion-like symptoms and 38% received one or more concussion diagnoses. Sixty-five percent continued working with concussion-like symptoms.”

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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post #78

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All four sound fine to my native ears. "It's going to run ..." is most natural when talking about a vehicle. (French if I recall does not distinguish "working" from "running" for machines generally.)

Thanks. While the primary meaning of 'marcher' is 'to walk', it can be used for machines and vehicles indeed. 'Rouler' is for vehicles only. Interestingly in English the verb 'to run' is used, suggesting higher speed. The expression “to work better” is quite common but I don't remember seeing “to work less well”. And as I was taught that « plus grand » translates to “taller” but « moins grand » to “not as tall as”, I…

Marcher here means "work", "function".

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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For those who don't know, Keaton was amazingly dedicated as a comedic stuntman - a silent era Jackie Chan (he was less popular after the silent era, but kept working until his death in the 60s). From Wikipedia: Garry Moore recalled, "I asked (Keaton) how he did all those falls, and he said, 'I'll show you.' He opened his jacket and he was all bruised. So that's how he did it—it hurt—but you had to care enough not to…

> He opened his jacket and he was all bruised. So that's how he did it—it hurt—but you had to care enough not to care. I don't want performers to risk their safety, health and life for my entertainment. Obviously I cannot stop it, but I can stop watching those who engage in things like this. (And I don't just mean the stunt performer, but the director, the producers, the studio and the franchise.) I have unsubscribed…

I'm a rock climber. There are many people out there who take wild and unnecessary risks on a regular basis for no accolades whatsoever, out in the middle of nowhere where no one can see them, and they don't tell anybody about it aftwerwards. However, if they want to do it for my entertainment that's fine too.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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post #20

I'm surprised there's no mention yet of the incredible scene from the 1980 film "The Blues Brothers". https://youtu.be/QfN1GRqKXpM?si=-4Mwmipl5sCFtCWN This practical effect took weeks to set up. I can't find documentation specifying any special techniques used to create this version of the car. I recall reading an interview naming the builder who set it up, and how no one on set was allowed to touch it except the act…

>This practical effect took weeks to set up.

Today that's replaced by crappy CGI done on a crunch by a sweatshop.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

#106
post #28

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By the way, I always wondered why we got modern versions of the Mini and the Beetle, but not the 2CV.

I guess the answer depends on which aspect of the 2CV is being replicated in the new version. If its "outrageously small but can still take you and a goose to market", Citroën have a tiny little electric vehicle, the Ami, today. If its "something simple enough that a farmer can weld the panels themselves", I fear those days are long gone, in the same way that the OG Land Rover Defender is no longer a car you can wren…

I thought one defining feature was the innovative front-to-rear linked suspension well suited for the poor road conditions in rural France of the fifties. Allegedly you could ride the car fairly comfortably across a freshly ploughed field.

Roads are mostly in better shape today, but in remote places of California there are still secondary roads where long-travel suspension is of benefit (partly explaining the popularity of pick-up trucks there).

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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post #28

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By the way, I always wondered why we got modern versions of the Mini and the Beetle, but not the 2CV.

I guess the answer depends on which aspect of the 2CV is being replicated in the new version. If its "outrageously small but can still take you and a goose to market", Citroën have a tiny little electric vehicle, the Ami, today. If its "something simple enough that a farmer can weld the panels themselves", I fear those days are long gone, in the same way that the OG Land Rover Defender is no longer a car you can wren…

As someone who fixes basically everything until you can no longer tell it is a ship of thesis, I don't think complexity or safety features are the problem so much as not designing for or expecting someone to fix something in combination with extreme penny pinching in manufacture, so that there isn't enough material to anything for repairs to be done reasonably. If something breaks, the original material was at such a bare-minimum thickness and/or low quality alloy or plastic to start with that even the smallest defect in repair is a problem.

Its like trying to fix a single broken strand in a spider web, even with the tiniest thread you can find and the most delicate hands and tools, any manipulation of the web at all is likely to cause even more defects and any successful patch job will need to be way over-kill compared to what was originally broken. You can't just fix that one thread that broke, you gotta throw a large patch over the entire area and hope that the original spider thread designs that were undamaged will be able to hold up against your much stronger patch job.

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

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post #55

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> Then you have to stop watching any competition of anything Done. Easy. > stop reading about start up on HN as well I don’t think there the motivation is to create entertainment though. But i don’t care much about that kind of content either. > forget about any extra ordinnary human achivement I disagree with that. Plenty of extraordinary human achievements were created under circumstances I find acceptable to celeb…

Let's not scale mountains, explore the oceans, cross the poles, or go to space. Why be heroic when we can all hold hands and be safe. """They have left the regions where it is hard to live; for they need warmth. One still loveth one's neighbour and rubbeth against him; for one needeth warmth."""

Yeah, because scaling a mounting or exploring the ocean is exactly the same as "punch me in the kidney bro, it'll be funny".

Re: How did they make cars fall apart in old movies (2017)

#109
post #27

It’s hard to believe they could make cars fall apart so perfectly without the tech we have today.

Seems easier back then; way fewer parts, not held together as well, no roof.

Maybe the lighter materials and looser tolerances played a role, but it’s still impressive
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