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I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by thomasthorpe »

whalesalad wrote: post #26

Can anyone recommend a resource for how to (architecturally) handle communication with a device over i2c? That is where I am kinda stuck atm when it comes to programming a GPS device. Backstory: at one point I was trying to use elixir/nerves on an rpi to manipulate a few sensor modules to try and produce a race lap timer for motorcycles: https://github.com/whalesalad/rabbit/blob/master/lib/rabbit/... I bit off more t…

So it jumps into detail quickly and is written by a vendor but this is a pretty good guide handling the architecture and detail. See how read and writes use device and register addresses to issue requests, and responses are managed with clock pulses and bus arbitration.

https://www.ti.com/lit/pdf/sbaa565 [pdf]

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by mindcrime »

ycombiredd wrote: post #67
mindcrime wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"they are definitely not being silly", that sounds like something a silly person would say. =) Ya know, it's fine to disagree with something. But hand-wavy, shallow dismissals of what someone has to say, with no willingness to even attempt to engage with the content on a rational basis, is unbecoming.

I can’t help but have the thought that the Joel_McKay in this conversation is itself an LLM having been prompted to flippantly disregard and downplay mentions of a.i., and LLMs specifically. I’m not saying it is true , but I am saying it made the tone and content of his messages in this thread seem a lot more self-consistent and explainable when I re-read them with that context in mind. :-) (@Joel_McKay: apologies fo…

It hasn't said anything intelligent yet, so there is that...

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by mdaniel »

hw-f3nter wrote: post #92
NoboruWataya wrote: post #48

Great idea, and it's definitely an area I am becoming more interested in as a hobbyist. Not to be that guy, but I always think it's a shame to see an open source community centre itself around a Discord server.

Thank you for your feedback! The Discord server serves as a platform for feedback and discussions about hardware hacking and HardBreak. Do you have any suggestions for alternative ways to offer these features?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42685138 is the one I always post in any mention if Discord or Slack because they are both walled gardens

In your specific case, you may have to self-host or pay because I don't believe your project would qualify under their open source hosting offering but it wouldn't hurt to ask

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by doubleg72 »

cushychicken wrote: post #85
0xEF wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Were you also completely turned off by the community? I ask because I got into it about 15+ years ago for the purposes of helping with emergency comms and learning more about electronics, but found the community extremely hostile toward new comers that did not have money to burn on expensive gear. I ended up just giving up on it after a few years after investing in a bunch of Arduino stuff and learned far more about…

Ham radio's decline is more than explainable as a cultural issue. The culture of every internet forum I've ever visited for it is absolutely deplorable. It seems like each one has a handful of really grouchy old gatekeepers who lie in wait to absolutely dunk on newcomers.

The overlap of hams and preppers is pretty large.. Most of those guys are of a particular mindset that only meshes with other like minded individuals.

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by cushychicken »

btreecat wrote: post #91
0xEF wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We agree, but I suppose my next question would be why? What happened to turn these guys (or ham radio culture at large) into grouchy old gatekeepers? I'm generalizing, of course, but they were like that when I arrived. I can't imagine the hobby was always like that, especially seeing some of the old literature from the 50's and 60's in the US, which was very encouraging of mentoring and sharing info. If it's still th…

Lead paint probably

HAHA that got me good

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by xvilka »

Instead of `strings` for the search[1], I recommend using `rz-bin`[2] and `rz-find`[3] tools, which offer more flexibility, searching strings outside of the data sections, searching for Unicode and less common encodings, and built-in cryptographic keys search. There are also `/` (search) commands in the Rizin itself. As for the entropy, there is a configurable and interactive histogram, see `p=` and `p==` commands, e.g. `p==e`.

[1] https://book.rizin.re/src/search_bytes/intro.html

[2] https://book.rizin.re/src/tools/rz-bin/strings.html

[3] https://book.rizin.re/src/tools/rz-find/intro.html

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

Lerc wrote: post #78
Joel_Mckay wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please reformulate your argument, and I will check back tomorrow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNSHZG9blQQ LLMs are rules based search engines with higher dimension vector spaces encoding related topics. There is nothing intelligent about these algorithms, except the trick ones play on oneself interpreting well structured nonsense. It is stunting kids development, as students often lack the ability to intuitively…

I have never understood why the failure to answer the strawberry question has seen as a compelling argument as to the limits of AI. The AIs that suffer from this problem have difficulty counting. That has never been denied. Those AI's also do not see the letters of the words they are processing. Counting the letters in a word is a task that it is quite unsurprising that it fails. I Would say it is more surprising tha…

Is that like 80% LLM slop? the allusion for failures to improve productivity in competent developers was cited in the initial response.

The Strawberry test exposes one of the many subtle problems LLMs inherently offer in the Tokenization approach.

The clown car of Phds may be able to entertain the venture capital folks for awhile, but eventually a VR girlfriend chat-bot convinces a kid to kill themselves like last year.

Again, cognitive development like ethics development is currently impossible for LLM as they are lacking any form of intelligence (artificial or otherwise.) People have patched directives into the model, but these weights are likely fundamentally statistically insignificant due to cultural sarcasm in the data sets.

Please write your own responses, =3

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by Joel_Mckay »

mindcrime wrote: post #102
ycombiredd wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t help but have the thought that the Joel_McKay in this conversation is itself an LLM having been prompted to flippantly disregard and downplay mentions of a.i., and LLMs specifically. I’m not saying it is true , but I am saying it made the tone and content of his messages in this thread seem a lot more self-consistent and explainable when I re-read them with that context in mind. :-) (@Joel_McKay: apologies fo…

It hasn't said anything intelligent yet, so there is that...

I asked for bobs proof, and was given marketing.

Then provided instructions on how to present facts, and still await the data.

Then immature folks showed up to try to cow people with troll content.

I don't have to prove anything, as the evidence was already collected and reported in peer-reviewed journals. People just prefer to ignore the cited evidence that proves they are full of steaming piles of fictional hype. =3

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by mindcrime »

Joel_Mckay wrote: post #108
mindcrime wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It hasn't said anything intelligent yet, so there is that...

I asked for bobs proof, and was given marketing. Then provided instructions on how to present facts, and still await the data. Then immature folks showed up to try to cow people with troll content. I don't have to prove anything, as the evidence was already collected and reported in peer-reviewed journals. People just prefer to ignore the cited evidence that proves they are full of steaming piles of fictional hype. =…

Proof of what exactly are you asking for?

Certainly there is zero question that today's "AI" systems are making progress on a wide array of benchmarks. You can see that here:

https://aiindex.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/HAI_...

Look in the section starting on page 73. Or just examine this image:

https://aiindex.stanford.edu/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/fig_...

There's your "speculative fiction" you seem so fond of.

Now, if your argument is no more than "who cares about benchmarks, 'AI' still isn't 'Real AI'" then all you're doing is repeating the 'AI Effect'[1] thing over and over again and refusing to acknowledge the obvious reality around you.

The AI's we have today, whether "real AI" or not, are highly capable in many important areas (and yes, far from perfect in others). But there is a starting point to talk about, and yes there is reason to think in terms of "rate of change" unless you have some evidence to support a belief that AI progress has reached a maximum and will progress no further.

I don't have to prove anything, as the evidence was already collected and reported in peer-reviewed journals.

Again, evidence for what exactly? What are you even claiming? All I see Bob claiming, and what I support him(?) in is the idea that there is legit reason to worry about the economic impact of AI in the near('ish?) future.

[1]; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AI_effect

Re: I created an open-source Hardware Hacking Wiki – with tutorials for beginners

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Post by ajot »

snvzz wrote: post #75
ajot wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you thought of a Creative Commons license? You can have a Non-Commercial clause, while letting others to cooperate with you and remix the information in your site. CC licenses are IMHO better suited for documents than things like GPL, BSD or MIT. https://chooser-beta.creativecommons.org/

Note that the CC -ND licenses are not Open Source either.

That's a fair comment, maybe OP should change the Open Source part after all, even if the license is changed.
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