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EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

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Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

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Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#104
post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

> It's like saying a meme out loud

Lots of memes are only said out loud. Don't forget the original meme definition.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#106
post #68
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not supposed to be a lobbyist. It is supposed to be a poltical movement. Its political marketing aimed at voters. It should target the type of teens on facebook, that you and i may look down upon. As far as im concerned, they dont even go far enough. We need a comic. We need memes. RESCUE MONORAIL CAT FROM THE CLUTCHES OF THE EVIL INTERNET HATE LEAGUE. FIRE UP YOUR MEMES AND BLAST THESE CORRUPT SENIORS OUT OF C…

I can't even tell if you're being sarcastic anymore. These "memes" are driving me crazy.

Not sarcastic. Question: do you need convincing, or are you not the target audience?

Im suspecting that most people here, are already being served well by the EFF.

Consider this a branch, with a different tone, aimed at the facebook / youtube / 9gag crowd.

And its still usefull for us, since we can eaily integrate the "alarm" with our own websites.

My memes were an exaggeration, but they were not sarcastic. Lets just hope the people here can be practical enough to accept that maybe the tone of voice isnt for us, it is the most effective way to promote a cause we all already care deeply about.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#108
post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

I totally agree that the cat/league/etc. is ridiculous. The problem is not with old style senators. The problem is with the 95% of the general population that is confused or turned off by it. You're trying to convince the general electorate, which then determines who gets elected. It does feel like a little club of geeks, which is not effective as a movement that aims to convince/beyond that circle.

Everybody considers themselves a geek these days. Because they like batman, board games or scifi movies like avatar.

Lets hope a majority of people will be fooled into thinking they are part of a special club of l33t interweb freedom f1ght3rs.

I am being both sarcatic ( about how everyone thinks they are a geek these days ) and honest ( about that it could actually work ) here.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#109
post #7
post #4

Well it embodies the best and the worst of internet movements. While the foundations are good: protecting the web from bad laws, restrictions etc... the execution is really ridiculous. Imagine you're an old style Senator or representative and you see that website with a weird ass looking cat... Do you really think it's going to make them think you're anything but a joke? I find that the words used are equally ridicul…

I think you have democracy backwards. We are not to serve our politicians, they are here to serve us. They dont care what a small group of nerds and tech companies want and think. They care what average people think they want. Symbolism, accessable tone of voice .. Thats extremely relevant. You shouldnt compare it to lobbyist webites. You should compare it those of political movements and politically oriented chariti…

Rescue the lolcats from the evil clutches of the internet hate league! So load up your meme gun and blast these seniors out of congress.

That right there. Tell me GP when youve found someone who can't get behind that. I think you'll be surprised.

Re: EFF, Reddit, Mozilla, others launch Internet Defense League and Cat Signal

#110
post #41
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It really feels like a little club of geeks trying to have an impact in the world and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Yeah, there's nothing worse than geeks trying to have an impact. What a bunch of ass holes! I'm curious, what impact do you have on "old style Senators"?

You're missing the point. I'd argue initiatives like these should have the aim of educating as many people as possible: things like a 'cat signal' may undermine that effort.

Im sorry. But a cat signal is awesome.

And the problem with educating people isnt the quality of the informational value of the message, its the lack of entertainment value.

Consider the daily show or colbert report, do they make people read less well informed newspapers? Most of their viewers were not reading those. It is however taking attention away from reality shows.

Likewise this is not to replace the EFF, but to widen its reach, and get people actively involved, that wouldnt get involved otherwise.

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