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Re: Uncut Currency

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Post by kasey_junk »

bmitc wrote: post #88
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the primary issue is that the US still has people on it This is hardly unique. > In a democracy it should be the values of the country that should be represented not individuals The world's oldest (Britain, Iceland) and largest (India, America) democracies have people on their currencies. Democracies are a human institution. It's dangerous to forget that.

And people seem to forget that the U.S. is not a pure democracy. It's a democratic republic that is becoming more and more republic-like than democratic-like.

More and more compared to when?

Since the founding we’ve changed to direct elections in the senate.

Many states have passed faithless elector laws for the electoral college and 17 states (or 209 electoral votes) have passed the national popular vote law.

Re: Uncut Currency

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Post by fweimer »

Scoundreller wrote: post #77
supernova87a wrote: post #42

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It is already big a deal to change the images on currency (no matter what country). Given the US dollar is viewed as somewhat of a standard, you can imagine that to change its size/shape would be quite difficult to generate enough political enthusiasm for.

The insistence on cotton paper money is part of the problem. Canada’s banknotes are all the same size but because they’re polymer, have a brail punch in them. Edit: not braille but a system of raised dots nonetheless: https://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknotes/audience-specific-reso...

The last iteration of German paper money was cotton-based and had raised markers, so it's not an either-or. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsche_Mark#/media/File:5_Ma... (the : in the bottom left area, next to the 5)

Re: Uncut Currency

#103

Post by ferguu_ »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #99
normie3000 wrote: post #78

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And for songs, often (fake?) testimonies to people's emotional attachments to the song.

It's not just me / the music videos I look up then, is it? I can't help but wonder if it's some kind of YT hive mind, bots, or Google's own algorithms pushing those comments to the top.

Seems like they just put the comments with the most likes at the top... stands to reason that more likes = nicer comment.

Re: Uncut Currency

#104

Post by Symbiote »

mike_d wrote: post #85
sschueller wrote: post #32

Why is the US one of the few countries that can't keep a consistent design across their bills and still does not have a way for blind people to identify which note they have. They are all the same size and have no embossed markings.

LOL. The lack of a consistent design is a core accessibility feature. Most "blind" people have some amount of vision. So starting in 1997 they began adding the very large numerals on the back and visual inconsistencies to the front so you can tell them apart with limited sight. Have a look at the bills side by side and you can see how they vary the background gradients and layout for easier identification: https://ww…

The US dollar notes are 7 different shades of nothing much, with a man's face in the middle, a near-identical fancy border, and a circular stamp on each side in black and dark green. The numbers are in a decorative font, and merged into the border.

On the reverse, there's a building and a similar decorative border.

Your link even describes the "subtle background colors"!

Only the $5 and $100 have a bold, contrasting number.

All the banknotes are the same size.

I challenge you to find a circulating currency with worse accessibility.

Re: Uncut Currency

#105

Post by eru »

ferguu_ wrote: post #103
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not just me / the music videos I look up then, is it? I can't help but wonder if it's some kind of YT hive mind, bots, or Google's own algorithms pushing those comments to the top.

Seems like they just put the comments with the most likes at the top... stands to reason that more likes = nicer comment.

I'm not sure. I would have assumed that this naive algorithm is what they had at first, and what gave us the cesspool?

Re: Uncut Currency

#106

Post by arresin »

golem14 wrote: post #18
percentcer wrote: post #2

Why do these sell for so much more than the value of the note?

You can sign up to be on the waiting list for a lucky Panda $2 note, with a nice red envelope and a serial number starting with '888'. I mean, it's a nice gesture, and maybe annoying the heck out of certain Presidents. The price for this $2 note + red envelope is >$10.

$10 is taking advantage.

Re: Uncut Currency

#107

Post by sschueller »

mike_d wrote: post #87
Scoundreller wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The insistence on cotton paper money is part of the problem. Canada’s banknotes are all the same size but because they’re polymer, have a brail punch in them. Edit: not braille but a system of raised dots nonetheless: https://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknotes/audience-specific-reso...

There is one private company that either directly manufactures or leases the machines out to produce every polymer banknote in the world. In theory Romania already has 80% of what they need to produce Australian bank notes and vice versa. There isn't anything other than US bills you can use to get the raw materials for US currency.

The Swiss company Orell Füssli prints the Swiss currency as well as currencies for 16 other central banks.

Re: Uncut Currency

#108

Post by popcalc »

mike_d wrote: post #87
Scoundreller wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The insistence on cotton paper money is part of the problem. Canada’s banknotes are all the same size but because they’re polymer, have a brail punch in them. Edit: not braille but a system of raised dots nonetheless: https://www.bankofcanada.ca/banknotes/audience-specific-reso...

There is one private company that either directly manufactures or leases the machines out to produce every polymer banknote in the world. In theory Romania already has 80% of what they need to produce Australian bank notes and vice versa. There isn't anything other than US bills you can use to get the raw materials for US currency.

>There isn't anything other than US bills you can use to get the raw materials for US currency.

You are very confident when you have no idea what you're talking about.

https://darknetdiaries.com/transcript/102/

All you need is the cotton blend of paper. There's no secret ingredient. Either find a paper pulp manufacturer who sells the blend like this guy from Quebec or build your own processes like North Korea. Many developing world currencies are more secure than the USD.

Re: Uncut Currency

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Post by yowzadave »

normie3000 wrote: post #78
eru wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's instagram. Slight tangent: the YouTube comments used to be famous for being a vile cesspit. Then Google changed something, and now they are full of positivity. Often too full.

And for songs, often (fake?) testimonies to people's emotional attachments to the song.

My favorite ones are the comment threads for sentimental songs from the 80’s—you just get a flood of heartbreaking stories from older folks talking about their first loves, now passed on.

Re: Uncut Currency

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Post by OutOfHere »

bradley13 wrote: post #61
sschueller wrote: post #32

Why is the US one of the few countries that can't keep a consistent design across their bills and still does not have a way for blind people to identify which note they have. They are all the same size and have no embossed markings.

The US is so weird about its currency. The repeated attempts to get rid of the dollar bill (dollar coins, two-dollar bill, etc.) have all "failed". I put "failed" in quotes, because all it requires is for the government to do it. Take the one-dollar bills out of circulation, no discussion, done. At this point, take the two-dollar bills (no one will notice) and the penny as well.

A lot of people rely on the bills. You are completely out of touch with the people with your attempt to sabotage the printed currency.
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