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Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by npteljes »

caseysoftware wrote: post #14

I worked for a dating website years ago and the business model is completely broken. More fun, a few years ago I was putting together a talk related to this blog post and searched for "best dating site" and hit the "top 100 dating sites" which implies there are at least 100. Yikes. Anyway, here's some talk of the business model and mis-matched motivations: https://caseysoftware.com/blog/working-for-a-dating-website

I agree with the mismatched incentives. Healthcare is a bit similar, one doesn't pay to be healthy, but to be treated. I'm not sure how to fix this, though.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by morkalork »

npteljes wrote: post #98
morkalork wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can find their old datascience blogs (that have since been purged), there's some interesting stuff in there. Iirc, one of the saddest revelations is the feature that best predicts outcome was income, and that hobbies/interests that looked like good predictors were just correlated with income. To use an extreme example, are two people a good match because they both like Polo or was it because they're both from…

I agree with this, but funnily enough, this makes the system work, just not for the reasons at face value. So, people don't match because of they like similar hobbies, they match because they look for the same proxies of values and status.

Yup. I should've used education in the example, are you really interested in the fact that the other person has a master's degree itself or is it a signal that they come from a certain societal background or lifetime earning potential.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by npteljes »

morkalork wrote: post #102
npteljes wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with this, but funnily enough, this makes the system work, just not for the reasons at face value. So, people don't match because of they like similar hobbies, they match because they look for the same proxies of values and status.

Yup. I should've used education in the example, are you really interested in the fact that the other person has a master's degree itself or is it a signal that they come from a certain societal background or lifetime earning potential.

Oh yeah, that's another good proxy. But the one you brought up, polo, is also a good one, because I remember about a statistics example, hopefully not made up - where a correlation was found between keeping horses and good health, and horses just turned out to be a proxy for wealth.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by kaikai »

PaulHoule wrote: post #31
ChrisClark wrote: post #27

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Are you literally saying anyone that's not straight only pretends to want to date? Because they are self centered? Seriously? Am I misreading this?

I take back any insinuation that gay, lesbian or bisexual people don't want to date, that's certainly wrong.

… so, trans people? That's a wild assertion.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by morkalork »

npteljes wrote: post #103
morkalork wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. I should've used education in the example, are you really interested in the fact that the other person has a master's degree itself or is it a signal that they come from a certain societal background or lifetime earning potential.

Oh yeah, that's another good proxy. But the one you brought up, polo, is also a good one, because I remember about a statistics example, hopefully not made up - where a correlation was found between keeping horses and good health, and horses just turned out to be a proxy for wealth.

Hehe yes, much like how one glass of red wine a day is just so beneficial for your health.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by changexd »

anonzzzies wrote: post #95
asdaqopqkq wrote: post #29

People looking for "an ethical dating app" are usually incel or incel adjacent. Dating is a zero sum game. Most men don't understand women. I'm saying this as a top 10% guy (IRL and on apps). It's best to acknowledge this and take this into account.

Top 10% guy... Are people really saying crap like that about themselves? Weird.

People usually do this for validation or just the fact is the opposite, often times these kind of people couldn't get partners just because they have this "I'm top __% guy so my partner should be ___" mentality and keeps complaining.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by johnnyanmac »

asdaqopqkq wrote: post #84
johnnyanmac wrote: post #82

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Maybe on a general forum. But "software ethics" is a topic of increasing interest as of late, and a community like HN would point to dating apps as exhibit B of dark software patterns that enshittify society as a whole. That's my first and best interpretation of such a comment on here. Social dynamics after these dark patterns are resolved is a whole other topic. And honestly not a topic I'm interested in talking abo…

You already know there is an overlap between the two.

In the same way there's an overlap between video gamers and school shooters, sure.

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by seethedeaduu »

PaulHoule wrote: post #10
OutOfHere wrote: post #6

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Technically, most here would care for the ratio of active-straight-cis-men to active-straight-cis-women, which I am afraid could be substantially more distorted. (No offense to any other groups, which hopefully will have better luck anyway.)

I suspect the others are (on average) too self-centered to be serious about dating although some might put on a show as if they were.

What does this even mean?

Re: Duolicious – Open-source dating app

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Post by Tostino »

PaulHoule wrote: post #31
ChrisClark wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you literally saying anyone that's not straight only pretends to want to date? Because they are self centered? Seriously? Am I misreading this?

I take back any insinuation that gay, lesbian or bisexual people don't want to date, that's certainly wrong.

Glad you are so open with being a bigot, Paul. Really good stuff.
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