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No surprise here, but what a bummer that this is "The Way™" Just let me pay you $3-5/ month to never see an ad again. It's worth it to me since the service is actually decent.
Unfortunately, if you're willing to pay for an ad-free service, I suspect you're far more valuable to advertisers than any reasonable amount you could pay to be exempt.
AI products will be speed running the last few decades of tech - make a compelling product, then add ads based on the prompt, then store prompts from each user and build psychological profiles, and finally manipulate AI output to maximize user susceptibility to part with their hard earned money. Bonus points if they can get the user addicted to their product.
I think a difference here is that a person who is discerning enough to use an LLM product to read more information on a given subject is probably going to be turned off by the horrible UX of ads. YouTube and Facebook and Google can be plastered with ads on every page because the lowest common denominator of user wants to use those products. One of ChatGPT's main draws was the clean no bullshit, Apple-like UI and I'm…
I like how AI generated ads tacitly confirm that advertisement was never about exposure and introducing people to new things. No, it's about automating deception on a grand scale and awarding the people that can most effectively control an audience. Why is TurboTax the best way to file my taxes, anyways?
Just a reminder that you can run a fairly capable model like qwen2.5:72b locally on an 128 gig M4 Max Macbook Pro.
It’s ironic that most people have jobs in the first place thanks to ads but hate on ads every day. Without ads the world would basically stop, they drive the businesses, each and every one. It’s a necessary evil that will always be in most popular products, especially considering most people want to get all value for free.
I want the power of the techno gods for free, but I also don't want ads. Is that so hard to get?
It's like credit cards. It's amazing benefits wouldn't exist without leagues of people chronically keeping a balance against near-usury levels of interest in some cases, but, fortunately, the set of people that use them correctly is much much smaller.
Most people irl don't give a shit about ads.
Evidence A: NFL and soccer growing in popularity every year despite 90 sec of ads every 5-10 minutes.
Evidence B: Netflix cheap and Spotify free being more than enough for millions of people.
Without them, our entire industry wouldn't exist. Being able to dunk on ads and invest time on ad blockers is a privilege, really.
It’s ironic that most people have jobs in the first place thanks to ads but hate on ads every day. Without ads the world would basically stop, they drive the businesses, each and every one. It’s a necessary evil that will always be in most popular products, especially considering most people want to get all value for free.
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If you have a better idea for making AI chatbots profitable then I'm sure all the AI chatbot companies which are losing staggering amounts of money would love to hear it. The first step is to find any business model that works, shittily or unshittily.
Deepseek appears to be running profitably, by being more efficient in how they train their models, being more efficient in how they run their models, and charging a modest profit margin on each API call. (Source: linked article / interview with the CEO of Deepseek from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42557586 )