US judge finds NSO Group liable for hacking journalists via WhatsApp

Post by yuvalr1 » Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 9:26 PM UTC

user982 wrote: post #84

fastball wrote: post #73

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Genocide is an attempt to eradicate a group. The only group Israel is trying to eradicate is Hamas. They're not genociding Palestinians, they're genociding Hamas. Are they killing an excessive number of civilians as collateral damage? Certainly seems like it. But collateral damage is not genocide. If they wanted to genocide the Palestinians, they'd be shipping 'em to camps and gassing them, like the Nazis did. Lookin…

Omer Bartov is an Israeli-American Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies. He is considered one of the world's leading authorities on genocide. Here is a 15-minute clip of him explaining that what Israel is perpetrating in Gaza is systematic genocide: https://x.com/amanpour/status/1869818758501675259

Post by tptacek » Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 9:28 PM UTC

talldayo wrote: post #95

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What you're missing is that this isn't a relative position. Nobody in this thread (or much of anywhere on HN) is defending Europe or America's misdoings with the same rhetoric. The reason is that people are willing to accept that their governments make mistakes, and they reflect on these problems and fix them democratically. Israel, currently, is in a position where a extremely nationalist and conservative ruling par…

Post by aguaviva » Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 9:33 PM UTC

yuvalr1 wrote: post #101

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Omer Bartov is an Israeli-American Professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies. He is considered one of the world's leading authorities on genocide. Here is a 15-minute clip of him explaining that what Israel is perpetrating in Gaza is systematic genocide: https://x.com/amanpour/status/1869818758501675259

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Post by eastbound » Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 9:38 PM UTC

kjkjadksj wrote: post #68

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #14

I thought Whatsapp and signal share the same encryption

People have to start assuming that any communication method in use is compromised. There’s just no way on earth orgs like the NSA would throw their hands up in the air and not find multiple different avenues into an app like signal. Its one of the most downloaded messaging apps. Investment into compromising it is very worth while. People should just assume everything involving a cell phone or computer is inherently i…

Post by ruined » Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 9:40 PM UTC

mjg59 wrote: post #16

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #14

I thought Whatsapp and signal share the same encryption

The encryption isn't alleged to have been compromised. The app itself deals with a lot of untrusted input (eg, thumbnailing video files you've been sent) so there's a meaningful attack surface outside the protocol itself.