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Re: Replace Philips Hue Automation with Home Assistant's

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Post by shadowpho » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 3:03 AM UTC

holoduke wrote: post #48

15155 wrote: post #38

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> and they all look to be in the 900mhz range Why is this an issue? Z-Wave is a mesh network, all hardwired switches/outlets/etc. are repeaters by default. > low volt LEDs in your kitchen like I do What is "low volt?" 12-24V? I have this in my kitchen using a 110V -> 24V dimmable LED PSU and a Z-Wave triac dimmer. Zigbee is not Z-Wave - Z-Wave has far more definition and structure to available devices and can do ever…

Zwave is a proprietary protocol. Its old and unnecessary complex. Zigbee devices are a lot cheaper. And in many cases better performing than zwave mesh networks. A few years ago you still had zwave devices you did not have zigbee variants for. But now? Cant think of one.

> Zwave is a proprietary protocol. Its old and unnecessary complex. Zigbee devices are a lot cheaper. And in many cases better performing than zwave mesh networks.

That’s not entirely correct. Zwave is more expensive because if you want to sell your zwave solution there’s a monopoly on zwave. Nothing to do with complexity or age.

As for “better performing”, I don’t even know how to respond. Latency? Reliability? Power? Bandwidth?

Zwave in general is better then zigbee due to lower frequencies and staying out of WiFi/bt. However it is more expensive and less options.

Re: Replace Philips Hue Automation with Home Assistant's

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Post by iforgotpassword » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 6:58 AM UTC

silon42 wrote: post #62

iforgotpassword wrote: post #52

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Home assistant doesn't require internet access. I'm using zigbee relays placed behind my regular light switches. They work perfectly fine should the home assistant setup ever go down, with the added benefit that i can control them remotely too and react to them being turned on or off in other automations.

Although it does require it for setup, no?

Well I had to download it obviously, but I don't think it required internet access after that, except maybe you enable the weather forecast and other add-ons.

Re: Replace Philips Hue Automation with Home Assistant's

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Post by tass » Tue, Dec 10, 2024, 4:12 PM UTC

15155 wrote: post #100

tass wrote: post #91

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I had a house full of a variety of switches I just moved out of - some Lutron, inovelli, and Leviton. For zwave, the best actual physical control was with Leviton - they have a rocker switch for dimming and are therefore easier to use than most. They don’t support multi-press scenes or anything like that but I found that to be a bit of a gimmick anyway, and dedicated buttons are a better option. Inovelli had the most…

Inovelli is now color matched to Lutron Claro plates.

Good to know, though they don't have replacements for the remaining switch I have.

Re: Replace Philips Hue Automation with Home Assistant's

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Post by ac29 » Wed, Dec 11, 2024, 6:25 AM UTC

Scene_Cast2 wrote: post #39

Fair warning to anyone who hasn't touched Home Assistant - HA brings so much value, but is simultaneously so frustratingly atrocious. For example, it operates on an "update" data model. There is no difference between a sensor being offline and not reporting info vs a sensor being online but reporting a repeating (previously seen) value. Add to that the way data is stored (two week retention; this weird relationship w…

> There is no difference between a sensor being offline and not reporting info vs a sensor being online but reporting a repeating (previously seen) value.

Weird, I have a device with a flaky wireless connection and when it is offline HA definitely reports it as unavailable. Graphs covering these time periods have gaps when the device was offline. Perhaps what you are seeing is device specific?