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Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by rbonvall »

teleforce wrote: post #59
soulofmischief wrote: post #15

I started using GIMP around 2003 as a small child, and I remember being hyped for 3.0 and non-destructive editing even back then. I'm in my thirties now. Slow and steady wins the race. Congrats to the GIMP team, can't imagine the catharsis they will experience when 3.0 officially drops.

> Congrats to the GIMP team, can't imagine the catharsis they will experience when 3.0 officially drops. Thanks for the catharsis word, I have to look it up for the meaning. 20 years or equivalent to 5 times Olympics games, is a very long time to develop and improve a software. It's now comparable to the real-time Linux kernel, another open-source software albeit it's a kernel not a user application [1]. Any other op…

Since no other pedants have chimed in yet, I'm required to point out that 20 years is five olympiads, which is the timespan in between six Olympic games.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by pjmlp »

mattl wrote: post #65
pjmlp wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was before GNOME took over, as it was supposed to be the answer against KDE and original Qt license. And here we are, having written articles about Gtkmm to The C/C++ Users Journal, I no longer care and run systems from Microsoft/Apple/Google instead.

I think Harmony was the Qt replacement but I don’t think it lasted very long.

That was after Nokia acquisition from Trolltech.

https://blogs.kde.org/2009/01/14/cute-harmony-qt-goes-lgpl/

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by mattl »

pjmlp wrote: post #102
mattl wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Harmony was the Qt replacement but I don’t think it lasted very long.

That was after Nokia acquisition from Trolltech. https://blogs.kde.org/2009/01/14/cute-harmony-qt-goes-lgpl/

Development ceased at the end of 2000, when Qt was released under the GPL, removing the perceived need for the Harmony Project to exist. In January 2009 Qt itself was made available under the GNU LGPL, along with the previous license options.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by StefanBatory »

squigz wrote: post #69
James_K wrote: post #68

I'm told it's taken them two decades to release this essential feature. What have they been doing for all this time? I think they need to talk to people who edit photos, and focus their efforts on the many low-hanging fruit which would drastically improve the UX of their app (much like Blender did). Perhaps they are doing this to a degree, I see mentions of UI changes, but I wonder why they only think of it now and i…

https://developer.gimp.org/core/submit-patch/

If I see a helicopter that crashed down on a tree, I can say something is wrong even if I don't have license for flying.

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by mauricioc »

mqus wrote: post #90
RugnirViking wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Klein? that means small. Schwartz is black

mini-nitpick for everyone that might be confused: it's "schwarz" (without t), Schwartz is a name of a lot of people.

Valid point, but I will also amend your nitpick: Schwarz is also a name of a lot of people :) Both refer to hair colour, I think. "Schwartz" was a valid spelling for the colour many centuries ago (see, e.g., item 15 in [1]), which makes sense since both spellings are pronounced the same way. Surnames don't follow spelling changes, so that's the only situation in which both variants coexist now. In maths, you have the Cauchy-Schwarz inequality and Schwartz's theory of distributions.

[1] https://woerterbuchnetz.de/?sigle=DWB&lemid=S04549

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by [deleted] »

em-bee wrote: post #96
cxr wrote: post #89

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> Websites[...] can sneakily copy the files you are working with You have made one of the most baffling logical errors that commonly crop up when people criticize browser-based apps. Browser-based apps execute in a sandbox. They are more constrained in what they can do in comparison to a traditional program running on your machine. Any nefarious thing a browser-based app can do, a local program can do, too, and not j…

i can remove network access capabilities from a desktop app after it is installed. i can't easily do that with an app running in a browser. likewise monitoring and detecting network access per application is easy. tracking down which browser tab is making which network connection is a lot harder.

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Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by cxr »

em-bee wrote: post #96
cxr wrote: post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Websites[...] can sneakily copy the files you are working with You have made one of the most baffling logical errors that commonly crop up when people criticize browser-based apps. Browser-based apps execute in a sandbox. They are more constrained in what they can do in comparison to a traditional program running on your machine. Any nefarious thing a browser-based app can do, a local program can do, too, and not j…

i can remove network access capabilities from a desktop app after it is installed. i can't easily do that with an app running in a browser. likewise monitoring and detecting network access per application is easy. tracking down which browser tab is making which network connection is a lot harder.

You are either confused about something, or you're simply refusing to engage with reality.

> Any nefarious thing a browser-based app can do, a local program can do, too, [or worse!]

Re: GIMP 3.0 is on the way

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Post by kombine »

sirwhinesalot wrote: post #25
albertzeyer wrote: post #2

I find it a bit weird that Gimp does not use the latest GTK (i.e. GTK4, which was considered stable since 2020), even though GTK originates in the Gimp project itself. It actually seems to be quite a bit behind: This is now the first release of Gimp which started to use GTK3, i.e. before, it even still used GTK2 (reached end-of-life in 2020)?

GTK4 removed a bunch of APIs for stupid reasons and GIMPs move to 3 started before 4 even existed. Had 4 at least tried to maintain some degree of compatibility then switching from 3 to 4 near the end would have been feasible. But that's not the case. If you aren't Gnome, GTK is not for you.

Might as well port the next version of Gimp to Qt - they seem to be much more reasonable as API providers.
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