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Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by lmm »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #90
frithsun wrote: post #27

It's inevitable that social media will split up into separate and distinct networks of people who can no longer stand or even undertand the other sociopolitical tribes. All of us sharing a singular global network was an exceptional and ephemeral circumstance.

I don’t think it’s inevitable at all. In fact I believe that the present day situation boils down to one thing only: the prioritization of engagement at the cost of all else. That’s what set us down this road. It incentivizes inflammatory posting that eschews nuance and context and twists and exaggerates the subject matter in order to provoke emotional responses — whether they be angry replies, “dunk” quote-posts, re…

> It would be an interesting experiment to see the effects of effectively the polar opposite of twitter, where ragebait and other attention-seeking behaviors are actively punished, with the content that’s most readily surfaced instead being that which is thoughtful, candid, and not emotionally charged.

Who would read it? The same people who already avoid twitter - not journalists, and therefore not celebs/politicians.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by staplers »

dandellion wrote: post #74
alsetmusic wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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>> It's inevitable… > Yes and no. Yes and yes. The right and the left don't even speak the same language. I'm not a native English speaker and half the time I don't even understand what the left are even saying. Examples: > regress into an id-dominated state of hyper-reality > what can be, unburdened by what has been What does that even mean? People keep calling the right stupid, but at least everybody can understand…

  People keep calling the right stupid, but at least everybody can understand what they're talking about.
This isn't the enlightened take you think it is. Lack of education led us here. Fuming at intellectuals when they attempt to address complex issues reminds me of our evolutionary ancestors fuming at the creation of civilization.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

the_snooze wrote: post #78
Onavo wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The second camp is just artificially creating echo chambers, a virtual "separate and distinct network" for the parts that matter.

The "echo chamber" argument really doesn't speak to me because all I want is a place where I can get timely updates about: people in my research field, pictures of cute dogs, and municipal government activities. The more a website stays laser-focused on my interests, the better.

I think those things you’ve mentioned are what most people came to social media for originally, but it’s gotten lost in all the noise. The original point of social networks was to be social and connect with people in your industry or who share your interests or share a locality in common, and X especially has drifted far from that ideal — lots of users now log onto it to find something/somebody to be angry at and to argue/troll.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by llm_trw »

madeofpalk wrote: post #79
paxys wrote: post #75

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Here's one metric that matters – revenue per user. Bluesky's is, I assume, zero, and soon that will have to change. Threads meanwhile has the largest social media ads and monetization platform in the world behind it ready to make the dollars flow at the push of a button.

> largest social media ads and monetization platform in the world behind it ready to make the dollars flow at the push of a button At the direct cost of making a worse product for users. I remain hopeful that Bluesky is able to monetise/fund development without succumbing to working against its users.

Hoping that the people who made twitter what it is will somehow create a different outcome when doing the same thing is ... something.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by protocolture »

frithsun wrote: post #27

It's inevitable that social media will split up into separate and distinct networks of people who can no longer stand or even undertand the other sociopolitical tribes. All of us sharing a singular global network was an exceptional and ephemeral circumstance.

Not really.

The issue is that social media sites produce feeds and content matching, forcing alternative views in your face.

Its like, they have decided to push metcalfes law as far as possible, to see when the breaking point is. Like a giant social experiment.

But if everyone is in one place thats still the most desirable network to be on. Just dont push Joe Blo's dumbest political opinions in my face as sponsored content.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by unnamed76ri »

madeofpalk wrote: post #70
unnamed76ri wrote: post #53

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Free speech is the upside of X. People leaving to join the echo chambers of Bluesky or Threads, only serves to turn X into the echo chamber they claim it is.

I know I'm falling for the bait, but saying X is some last bastion of free speech is baffling, considering it's actual actions. Why do the remaining posters keep self-censoring "Blues*y"?

I don’t know what you are referring to. I’ve never seen someone self-censor Bluesky. I see people talking about it on X all the time. Mainly to highlight some of the worst content they find there but that’s another subject…

I tried checking out Bluesky the other day. The feed was mainly unhinged political rants of a very particular flavor.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by cosmic_cheese »

skybrian wrote: post #92
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the Bluesky crowd will probably chill out with time, but right now if you don’t readily use the block feature there you’re going to have your feed and notifications peppered with the same trolls that are currently making X inhospitable. The majority of users getting blocked aren’t interested in actual discourse, they’re just there to get a rise out of people. It’s difficult to envision any social network stay…

> inevitable I don't get any trolls on either platform. I guess I'm too boring :)

I don’t get much trouble myself personally either, but it shows up in the replies to the posts in my feed which isn’t great and why a good block feature is necessary.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by mingus88 »

the_snooze wrote: post #78
Onavo wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The second camp is just artificially creating echo chambers, a virtual "separate and distinct network" for the parts that matter.

The "echo chamber" argument really doesn't speak to me because all I want is a place where I can get timely updates about: people in my research field, pictures of cute dogs, and municipal government activities. The more a website stays laser-focused on my interests, the better.

I’m still using an RSS reader for that very purpose. I want my trusted content displayed chronologically; miss me with the algorithm and the recommended influencers. I’ve been on the internet long enough to know what I want and how to find it.

Re: Bluesky is on the verge of overtaking Threads in all the ways that matter

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Post by JansjoFromIkea »

pythonguython wrote: post #11

Low quality article aside, Threads also had a major spike in usage that quickly dropped off. I could be wrong, but I’m going to guess Bluesky will be the same. They don’t seem to offer anything new/different other than moderation, which I’m not convinced is enough to shift momentum from x to bluesky

I'm not sure Threads ever had that much of a spike in usage beyond the first day of new accounts. Got the impression a huge number of people curious about it signed up due to the very easy onboarding if you already had an instagram, looked around a little and then never went back.

Outside of the tiny number of Threads users who didn't have an Instagram account beforehand, the act of registering to BlueSky is a far more engaged move than Threads ever had imo.

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