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#102That's what a functional government looks like. High-information, low-controversy, consolidating citizens around a shared truth.
A pamphlet talking about "in case of war..." seems like it is making war itself more likely. "Shared truth" seems like it's reaching also.
Wearing a helmet makes falling more likely? Vaccination makes disease more likely? Fire drills increase the chance of fire? Information about bear awareness makes bear encounters more likely?
Of course not. Civil defence is a good thing, sticking your head in the sand is not. Also, the brochure is not just about war but also about other crises. Sweden can experience 'interesting' weather which can leave people out of reach of rescue services for a while so 'be prepared' is just good advice.
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Ask historians: you may get surprised. What they will tell you is -- up until the genocide against the Tatars (and other groups), the majority of its population was always solidly non-Russian. And that its prior ownership by whichever colonial powers is entirely irrelevant to its current legal jurisdiction. Which is unambiguously Ukrainian.
Well, one example is Gérard Chaliand, who is very flat on (his conclusions on) the matter soon after the question at 14:16 :
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Putin is a product of the KGB and USSR, and is a uniquely slick, effective global leader. a real life James Bond villain -- who won the game, and took over a country.
If you think he's slick, you should listen more attentively to his ̶h̶o̶r̶s̶e̶s̶h̶i̶t̶ speeches.
That's the same type of rhetoric used to diss Trump and it did not work to keep him from gaining popularity. The same goes for Putin, he might not be everyone's idea of a great leader but he has proven to be capable of gaining and keeping power.
For those who wonder, no I am not comparing Trump to Putin, they are two totally different people with different personalities. I am referring to the ineffective rhetoric used by their opponents.
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> that Sweden will never surrender and any messaging about it is enemy agitation to be ignored. Oh ye, the outlawing of losing wars. Not very convincing for adults but I guess teenagers think it sounds cool.
The "Sweden will never surrender" part refers to the brochure warning against enemy propaganda which suggests that Swedish forces have surrendered and people should leave enemy forces unharmed. It is mentioned on page 5 of the English-language brochure: https://rib.msb.se/filer/pdf/30874.pdf
So how do you enforce an armistice when the standing order is "never to surrender"? I.e. not "enemy propaganda" but government orders. You would have units disregarding it left and right.
I don't think it is a good idea to give the soldiers the impression that they will fight to the last man, since that encourages killing their officers at an earlier stage than they would otherwise. Preferably, you want to lure with some peace agreement that is just around the corner, such that the soldiers believe that there is hope for them.
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#107I just watched Patlabor 2 last night, about a civil war in post-Cold War Japan. The main theme is the following: The thing about one-in-a-million events is that they are eventually going to happen once the other 999,999 occur. Thus a government which does not plan for one-in-a-million scenarios is truly derelict and incapable of survival.
> The thing about one-in-a-million events is that they are eventually going to happen once the other 999,999 occur. Nitpick: I get your point, but phrasing it like this is basically the gambler's fallacy. That's not how probability works. You could ask though if, given the changed environment, the one-in-a-million event still has the odds of one-in-a-million. Or if one-in-a-million is really such a rare thing if you…
Better formulation:
a one-in-a-million event that is tried a million times has a ~63% chance of happening.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Ask historians: you may get surprised. What they will tell you is -- up until the genocide against the Tatars (and other groups), the majority of its population was always solidly non-Russian. And that its prior ownership by whichever colonial powers is entirely irrelevant to its current legal jurisdiction. Which is unambiguously Ukrainian.
Well, one example is Gérard Chaliand, who is very flat on (his conclusions on) the matter soon after the question at 14:16 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr5PRtnqaWI
And when he flatly says "the population became 80-85 percent Russian", he's referring to the time period after the 1944 genocide (which he's choosing not to mention for for some reason). Before which the Russian population was, as he knows, always a minority. Moreover, essentially all of the influx of non-indigenous groups after 1783 was as a result of settler-colonialist policies of the Russian and Soviet empires. Before which the population was 93 percent Tatar, about 7 percent other groups -- with no Russian population to speak of.
Which he's also not telling you, for some reason.
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#109A simple note: if you live sufficiently south for p.v., in a home, you can sustain services disruptions significantly:
- p.v. with storage means freezers operational, and freezers means food, protein in particular, for potentially very long periods
- even without p.v. a home in the wood means being able to heat in the winter sourcing wood in nature, uncomfortable but still heat, also usable to cook
- you have room to store water, from the aqueduct with a personal pump in home pipes, so with p.v. you get cold and hot water, potentially for a week or two, and in nature sources tend to be common at our latitudes
In an apartment in a dense city you can just keep a bit of water, but still much less than the countryside, next to zero chance for p.v. and energy storage, very limited chance to source water in nature, even issues to walk for many stairs if elevators have no energy. Long story short: you can't be resilient. Oh, and you might be targeted because hitting a city it's easy and some damages are assured, hitting the countryside is essentially wasting weapons. Remember as well: with wood you can cook various long lasting foods, like rice, beans, ... without wood or locally produced energy your cooking ability going down to zero.
Floods? Spread homes might be or not at risk, but they are still spread, meaning few per flooded are, so rescuing it's doable as temporary shelters, emergency food supply etc. Dense areas? The same in risk terms, but extremely hard to help simply because there are too many people hit together.
Earthquakes? Very similar, plus the fact that light homes tend to allow quick escape, tall buildings do not, and even if they might be well designed in seismic terms they are still very problematic. Fires? idem.
Long story short: it's pointless to publish such next-to-obvious recommendations, some could do something, many could not.