Live data from Hacker News

Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

roadandtrack.com

101–110 of 460 posts

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

#101

I'd love to see some sort of multiple regression or ANOVA on this, instead of singling out a single variable. Is car brand really the best independent predictor? Or is it specific design decisions you tend to see in certain brands? (Like, say, maximizing driver distraction by consolidating a bunch of essential controls and information displays into a touchscreen display that's really difficult to operate when it's su…

Check out the study, it's linked to in the article:

https://www.iseecars.com/most-dangerous-cars-study#v=2024

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

#102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

I never understood how in America, a DUI seems to be (from films etc) a relatively minor issue. In the UK you get a prison sentence, even if you didn't cause any harm (eg we're spot-tested).

A big problem is that America is huge, and relatively sparse at that. You have to drive just to get to the pub!

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

#103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

How is California special in that regard? Many states lack the infrastructure or density to allow for proper enjoyment of alcohol.

Unless you're wealthy enough to live in the core of a major metropolitan area, it's all of the states.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

#104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Teslas can go fast real fast, so naively this is the result I would expect given how they have filtered the data. In other words, unless they controlled for this… Explain to me why you would want to filter out fatalities caused by going “real fast”?

Because comparing the fatality rate of a Corolla going 50mph and a Tesla going 90mph is useless to a person who wants a car that is safe when driven responsibly.

Unless the Tesla induces unsafe behavior, of course. Does the car make it easier to break the speed limit, drive distracted, or drive under the influence? I don’t know.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

I never understood how in America, a DUI seems to be (from films etc) a relatively minor issue. In the UK you get a prison sentence, even if you didn't cause any harm (eg we're spot-tested).

For the average American with no criminal record it’s relatively serious. It depends on the state but you’ll usually spend the night or weekend in jail until you can make bail. It can have career repercussions and America’s lenient approach to road accidents goes out the window so if anyone gets hurt except you, there will be a felony charge up to manslaughter.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

#106
I remember some car collision data that showed that men were more likely to get into any collision and women were more likely to get into a fatal collision. A comment I read about the study suggested the conclusion that men take more risks while women take bigger risks.

It's interesting to think in that context about this. Could Tesla drivers be taking bigger risks because they think the car's software will save them from the negative consequences of their risky decisions? (As an extreme example, one such driver opted to drive in the back seat instead of the driver's seat. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-highway-patr...)

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

#107
post #24

I thoroughyl expect the Deparment of Government Efficiency to recommend U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) be shut down to save previous taxpayer dollars.

Not even remotely farce. I hope the rest of the world is taking notes...

This is why we need the Department of Department of Government Efficiency Efficiency so we can ensure the governmental efficiency of the Department of Government Efficiency.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

#108

In a big picture, this makes sense. You can load the cars with safety features, but it doesn't change the fact that these cars are very heavy, very fast, and loaded with features that reward distracted driving. In the US at least, the top killer of drivers are trees on the side of the road.

> You can load the cars with safety features, but it doesn't change the fact that these cars are very heavy Being heavy is actually a safety feature of sort (but just for the people inside the car, it increases overall fatality).

It ain't working then because these heavy cars tend to have more fatalities.

Re: Tesla has the highest fatal accident rate of all auto brands, study finds

#109
post #24

I thoroughyl expect the Deparment of Government Efficiency to recommend U.S. Fatality Analysis Reporting System (FARS) be shut down to save previous taxpayer dollars.

Not even remotely farce. I hope the rest of the world is taking notes...

Nobody needs to take notes, we’ve known what this is for a hundred years. We spent most of the last century trying to get rid of autocracy in various places, there’s entire libraries worth of books detailing this playbook at this point.
Post reply on HN