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Re: German coalition government collapses

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A discussion with now 8000 comments has been on the front page for most of the day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42057647

it's not much of a discussion, it's the side that lost (which corresponds to the bulk of the HN community) not acknowledging anything unsound about their beliefs or approach or misalignment with the electorate, and instead continuing with the same talking points that lost the election. Which is fine, they can do that, that can be a heartfelt belief, but it's not a discussion that's going anyplace or illuminating anyb…

And that’s exactly the reason I like HN and actually read comments here unlinke on other platforms like Reddit where the quality of comments in average are bad

Re: German coalition government collapses

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"Are you male and the wrong job or you might like other men? Much less good. " Could you explain what you're talking about here? "It sucks to be poor", that makes sense. But being gay doesn't matter imo and I fail to see how other (western) countries are much different. I generally have similar feelings about your other points, but don't have personal experience there.

Donald Trump and especially the people that voted for him are not so sweet on gays (well I guess some might tolerate gay women on a porn site, but not so much living right next to them). It would absolutely not surprise me if after the repeal of abortion rights, gay marriage rights will be next. Now to be fair, some of the states did vote for better abortion rights after the repeal (and during this presidential elect…

Most people aren’t moving into any of the red states, though (maybe Texas)?

And with the all states right thing that they are pushing hopefully Trump will be dead by them time they have enough political capital to restrict stuff on a Federal level.

Re: German coalition government collapses

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post #85
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A discussion with now 8000 comments has been on the front page for most of the day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42057647

it's not much of a discussion, it's the side that lost (which corresponds to the bulk of the HN community) not acknowledging anything unsound about their beliefs or approach or misalignment with the electorate, and instead continuing with the same talking points that lost the election. Which is fine, they can do that, that can be a heartfelt belief, but it's not a discussion that's going anyplace or illuminating anyb…

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Re: German coalition government collapses

#104
post #85
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A discussion with now 8000 comments has been on the front page for most of the day: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42057647

it's not much of a discussion, it's the side that lost (which corresponds to the bulk of the HN community) not acknowledging anything unsound about their beliefs or approach or misalignment with the electorate, and instead continuing with the same talking points that lost the election. Which is fine, they can do that, that can be a heartfelt belief, but it's not a discussion that's going anyplace or illuminating anyb…

> not acknowledging anything unsound about

Except the top comments are the complete opposite of that…

Re: German coalition government collapses

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> like stripping away LGBT rights or abortion? These are ideological battles which are specular to those of the left. All these laws to extend and protect LGBT rights? Marginally useful only to a small minority (which should be already protected in its fundamental rights by the normal laws) but great to avoid talking about difficult issues: how to go against established interests to improve the economy, how to modern…

It seems strange to associate abortion as something only the left cares about. It's been a very big talking point for the right for a long time.

I agree, I also think it's fundamentally different from other "minority" rights. Anyway, I think the state referendums have proven the voters are going to defend abortion, whatever the right says about it.

Re: German coalition government collapses

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It's unbelievably bad government behaviour. Allow mass immigration, to enjoy the boost in tax revenues and GDP, while dumping all the costs and fallout on the people. Rents skyrocketed, utility bills getting more expensive, waiting twice as long for a doctor? Well that's not my problem, is it pleb? It'd be one thing if they were actively clearing the path for it to minimise impact. Preemptively clearing land and buil…

I invite anybody to show me any credible evidence the immigration has a positive Net Present Value (NPV). The purpose was the destruction of the status quo, not improved tax revenues and GDP, but rather its replacement with a compliant, desperate, and above all else, an obedient population.

> The purpose was the destruction of the status quo, not improved tax revenues and GDP, but rather its replacement with a compliant, desperate, and above all else, an obedient population.

I invite you to provide any credible evidence to this statement.

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There is no mass immigration

Not yet, but it's already big enough to notice the problems it brings.

The problems are that it becomes visible and hence it generates fear of the unknown which some politicians (populists or demagogues is probably a better description) easily exploit.

That really is the core of the issue - and it’s a big one, not easy to solve.

Re: German coalition government collapses

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If the future German Chancellor is here, here's my proposal for your new campaign: "We choose to build one million affordable apartments in four years, not because it's easy but because it's hard". It may not solve all of Germany's problems but at least you'll energize the construction sector, alleviate the housing crisis, learn how to finish a construction project on time and you'll have to remove some bureaucracy t…

Interesting that 2 similar problems - water rise and population increase - are treated that differently, i.e. it is considered normal that the government would build levies/etc. while the government building housing is an abomination.

Well, it has been a race to the bottom to be fair, any infra is just becoming derelict, railways, levies are a very good example of infra in very bad state btw.

Re: German coalition government collapses

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As a german imo the real problem is that we replaced reasoning with ideology. There are sometimes complex connections between cause and effect. It is not enough to just have the right intention.

I don’t think there was ever much reasoning. What changed is the scale at which emotions can be exploited nowadays. I just obliterates any reasoning happening…

Re: German coalition government collapses

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People who already have property would not be happy because the government would spend huge money on a program they are not interested. And it could make the houses prices lower (which could be not popular for people, who already paying a loan). Would attract people who are renting though.

As a home owner in Germany: it is important to me that my fellow citizens have a place to live than whether I earn 15% more or less with rent. Also: If there is too much pressure, my risk of even harsher messures will rise, e.g. expropriation has happened before.

Right, the high percent of people owning the houses gives extra stability to the country. It keeps prices reasonable and gives overall more options (wanna change a city for a new job? wanna start a family? need some space for your extra hobby, which could give you some money potentially?). Sadly, not many people connect all the dots.
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