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Netflix Europe offices raided in tax fraud probe

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Re: Netflix Europe offices raided in tax fraud probe

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Post by hulitu »

nicce wrote: post #84
Algent wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's basically what happened when they tried (twice I think ?) to raid Uber offices in France, their boss pressed a kill switch and everything went down in seconds. It completely blocked the investigation. Afterward Uber helped Macron campaign who then ordered National Financial Prosecutor's office to "stop bothering them" so I don't think anything new happened since. Edit: Some sources in below replies for infos o…

> Afterward Uber helped Macron campaign who then ordered National Financial Prosecutor's office to "stop bothering them" so I don't think anything new happened since. Isn’t that kinda definiton of corruption?

No. Corruption is when the others are doing it. /s

Re: Netflix Europe offices raided in tax fraud probe

#102

Post by hulitu »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #96
sensanaty wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How the hell can any of what you just described be legal? Do you have any articles about this? Because this is insane if true.

Why should it be illegal? Isn't it akin to "right to remain silent"? Why the need to present any information to police unless it is asked by court. Assuming that they didn't delete the data, just moved it to somewhere safe where it couldn't directly be taken away. We had a raid in one of my previous company due to copyright violation due to a user uploaded content. Authorities came in to take in all the codebase, rep…

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Re: Netflix Europe offices raided in tax fraud probe

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Post by [deleted] »

sensanaty wrote: post #94
Algent wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's basically what happened when they tried (twice I think ?) to raid Uber offices in France, their boss pressed a kill switch and everything went down in seconds. It completely blocked the investigation. Afterward Uber helped Macron campaign who then ordered National Financial Prosecutor's office to "stop bothering them" so I don't think anything new happened since. Edit: Some sources in below replies for infos o…

How the hell can any of what you just described be legal? Do you have any articles about this? Because this is insane if true.

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Re: Netflix Europe offices raided in tax fraud probe

#104

Post by sensanaty »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #96
sensanaty wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How the hell can any of what you just described be legal? Do you have any articles about this? Because this is insane if true.

Why should it be illegal? Isn't it akin to "right to remain silent"? Why the need to present any information to police unless it is asked by court. Assuming that they didn't delete the data, just moved it to somewhere safe where it couldn't directly be taken away. We had a raid in one of my previous company due to copyright violation due to a user uploaded content. Authorities came in to take in all the codebase, rep…

Presumably the French police aren't randomly deciding on a Tuesday for no reason to check the company for proof of them being tax cheats without some court somewhere requesting it, but even if they were, we're talking about a company here, not a person. A person has the right to remain silent, it doesn't make sense for a company to have that same right.

And the 2nd half just reads like pure corruption to me, they paid off some politician (who just so happens to wield the most power in the whole country) to pressure him to get them to stop their investigation into their illegal acts? In what universe could that 2nd sentence be construed as anything other than slimy, corrupt behavior?

Re: Netflix Europe offices raided in tax fraud probe

#105

Post by slater »

hulitu wrote: post #102
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should it be illegal? Isn't it akin to "right to remain silent"? Why the need to present any information to police unless it is asked by court. Assuming that they didn't delete the data, just moved it to somewhere safe where it couldn't directly be taken away. We had a raid in one of my previous company due to copyright violation due to a user uploaded content. Authorities came in to take in all the codebase, rep…

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No, it doesn't.

Re: Netflix Europe offices raided in tax fraud probe

#106

Post by [deleted] »

asveikau wrote: post #62
seiferteric wrote: post #5

I wonder how these "office raids" would work for remote first companies that don't have much of an office presence and with little or no physical documents and everything being stored in the cloud somewhere.

What do you think "the cloud" is? I'm reminded of an old meme, "the cloud is just someone else's computer". They could raid a data center and seize machines. They could also subpoena data they are looking for.

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Re: Netflix Europe offices raided in tax fraud probe

#108

Post by staticautomatic »

LunaSea wrote: post #100
YetAnotherNick wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should it be illegal? Isn't it akin to "right to remain silent"? Why the need to present any information to police unless it is asked by court. Assuming that they didn't delete the data, just moved it to somewhere safe where it couldn't directly be taken away. We had a raid in one of my previous company due to copyright violation due to a user uploaded content. Authorities came in to take in all the codebase, rep…

It can be destruction of evidence, which is illegal.

Unless it wasn’t destroyed, in which case it might be interring with an investigation, which is probably also illegal in France.

Re: Netflix Europe offices raided in tax fraud probe

#109

Post by Retric »

bubbleRefuge wrote: post #107

How about just get rid of double taxation in corporate taxes? Eventually, taxes will get paid via distributions or sale of stock by individuals.

Or never if the stock is owned by a foreign national, charity, sovereign wealth fund, etc.

Reasonable corporate taxes are a net positive for the economy of the county that issues them.

Re: Netflix Europe offices raided in tax fraud probe

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Post by electrozav »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #96
sensanaty wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How the hell can any of what you just described be legal? Do you have any articles about this? Because this is insane if true.

Why should it be illegal? Isn't it akin to "right to remain silent"? Why the need to present any information to police unless it is asked by court. Assuming that they didn't delete the data, just moved it to somewhere safe where it couldn't directly be taken away. We had a raid in one of my previous company due to copyright violation due to a user uploaded content. Authorities came in to take in all the codebase, rep…

And if raids are court ordered?
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