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Re: New iMac with M4

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Why does this still have the ridiculous iMac chin? Surely they can fit everything behind the screen at this point.

The chin gives you a good touch-point for adjusting the angle of the display and the rotation angle of the entire base, without having to worry about touching the screen/screen bezel and getting finger prints on it.

It's also a great place to tack post-it notes.

Re: New iMac with M4

#102

16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.

Now if only they could figure out how to allow charging the Magic Mouse while it’s being used. I guess that technology is still years away.

Very easy. You sell it on eBay and buy a Logitech MX Master.

Re: New iMac with M4

#103

16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.

Now if only they could figure out how to allow charging the Magic Mouse while it’s being used. I guess that technology is still years away.

You just reminded me of how stupid the plug beneath the MM was...You never needed to charge it, till you needed it and couldn't use the mouse.

Re: New iMac with M4

#104
post #30
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They literally can't. They moved the headphone jack from the back to the side because it was too long. Now you could argue if it needs to be that thin but for the current configuration, there's nothing you can cram behind the screen.

For something that's literally designed to sit on a desk, yes... it's ridiculous to make it thinner in a dimension you never see vs one that you see all the time.

iMac has always been a device to be seen with, if not for the user then for the manufacturer.

Re: New iMac with M4

#105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably, their career economists found that this "weird" pricing scheme is actually optimal—that selling tiny RAM upgrades for $200 or $400 is empirically, measurably an effective way to sort their consumers by purchasing power, and optimally drain their wallets. It goes by many names, the "microeconomic pricing strategy where identical or largely similar goods or services are sold at different prices by the same…

> optimally drain their wallets I mean, that's basically it. The difference between part costs of 8GB/16GB/32GB RAM chips is nearly a rounding error, and they're probably eating a bunch more costs stocking and adding assembly for different RAM SKUs.

That explains it then. The extra cost of supporting extra RAM SKUs has to be recouped somehow. What better way than by stocking extra RAM SKUs and charging a premium? :)

Re: New iMac with M4

#107

If 32GB is the max, why not just make that the one and only model and get rid of this weird segmentation. That's a ridiculously low minimum and only just barely adequate. 8GB was practically criminal. Or -- and I know this is crazy -- slottable RAM on a device that is designed for things other than portability. Wild, I know.

How else can they upsell 16GB of ram worth 50 euros for 400?

Re: New iMac with M4

#108

If 32GB is the max, why not just make that the one and only model and get rid of this weird segmentation. That's a ridiculously low minimum and only just barely adequate. 8GB was practically criminal. Or -- and I know this is crazy -- slottable RAM on a device that is designed for things other than portability. Wild, I know.

I’ve never felt memory limited on my 16gb macbook pro, on which I code, run rust-analyzer (major memory hog), video edit, etc. Most people definitely don’t need 32GB

I do on my 24gb one running a custom typescript compiler, running backend + 2 frontends (a backoffice and an embedded one) + E2Es.

Re: New iMac with M4

#109

16GB base RAM, they finally did it. They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C.

> They also did move the Magic Keyboard and Magic Mouse to USB-C. Only for the bundled peripherals, it seems. The Apple Store now only lists the full-size Lightning keyboard without Touch ID in white, which is even worse than before when you could get various permutations of tenkeyless, Touch ID, and black.

I guess it was still getting updated. All peripherals are available in USB-C versions for me now.

Re: New iMac with M4

#110
post #21
post #16

Why does this still have the ridiculous iMac chin? Surely they can fit everything behind the screen at this point.

They literally can't. They moved the headphone jack from the back to the side because it was too long. Now you could argue if it needs to be that thin but for the current configuration, there's nothing you can cram behind the screen.

From the ifixit teardown of the previous M1 model [1], it seems that all the compute is going in the chin.

They can't put the compute in the back of the display itself, while maintaining the same thickness like an iPad (which has the same CPU), because the room behind the displays is dominated by the speaker system, allowing the iMac to have surprisingly good audio quality despite being so thin.

[1] https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac+M1+24-Inch+Teardown/142...

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