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It's not end-to-end encrypted (if you enable account sync), so Microsoft can technically see your passwords. Feel free to switch or not switch based on that information.
Firefox isn't end-to-end encrypted either anymore, IIRC.
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Doesen't having the seeds available on all of the devices make it not 2FA? You now need only one device to login at any given time.
The second factor isn’t a second device, it’s the TOTP code.
"Something you know"; "something you have"; "something you do"; "something you are [biometrics]"; "somewhere you are [geolocation]".
Passwords are in your head - "something you know".
TOTP codes are generated by a hardware token - "something you have".
If the TOTP codes are crammed into your password manager, then the factors are no longer distinguished by these qualities, but they're now the same factor, and it's not true MFA anymore, whether or not they're split up across devices, or apps.
Thank you to Bitwarden for relicensing a thing to Free/Open License! Unfortunately, I no longer recommend Bitwarden for normal people because the built-in password manager in Firefox is too good. But for anyone with more advance needs (or who doesn't trust a password manager built into a web browser, I always recommend Bitwarden because KeepassXC + syncing is way too difficult for normal people.
What finally brought me to using BW was that I simultaneously needed to backup/sync my TOTPs across mobile/desktop devices, and came to have the need for sharing an increasing number of passwords with my SO. It delivered beautifully on all of that.
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> because KeepassXC + syncing is way too difficult for normal people I've been debating for ages if this is a hurdle that can be overcome by packaging or even hand-holding support. When I show "normal people" my pass+sync setup they beg me to implement it for them. Once it's running it's near-zero maintenance.
Password management is like exercise. Even when people say they understand the value and want to do it, they don't. Even if you implement it for them, if it's not something that slots perfectly into their existing routine, they're not going to do it. Thankfully passkeys are here.
Thankfully the incredible hype for passkeys has been dead for years now and people are starting to question it.
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can you share how do you set this up?
I store the password vault in dropbox. Done.
No local backup? Do you rely on the network working all the time?
I do something similar on the mobile phone (the reasining is, if there's no network, there's nothing I need to login to) but I also keep a local copy on my laptop (that I sometimes operate with limited connectivity). Without any automatic syncing, one of the two copies will be stale.
Thank you to Bitwarden for relicensing a thing to Free/Open License! Unfortunately, I no longer recommend Bitwarden for normal people because the built-in password manager in Firefox is too good. But for anyone with more advance needs (or who doesn't trust a password manager built into a web browser, I always recommend Bitwarden because KeepassXC + syncing is way too difficult for normal people.
> Unfortunately, I no longer recommend Bitwarden for normal people because the built-in password manager in Firefox is too good Interesting, I've always felt that browser-based password managers provided remarkably little value for most people. Using them on mobile is tricky and platform dependent, it's easy to have local-only, non-synced data and then lose it, and being multi-device is trickier, especially in a work…
They provide the value of "you should, by design, have no idea what most of your passwords are; if you know any significant number of your passwords you probably have bad passwords".
And both Firefox and Chrome sync passwords between devices.
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Does it require a Firefox account? Does it only store them locally if you haven't signed in to Firefox? This is the sort of failure I've seen, where people think their passwords are synced but because they didn't sign in years ago it's actually not backed up at all. At least on Chrome you get reminded of that all the time on YouTube/Google search, etc. I know for Safari all the sync is via iCloud meaning if you're no…
Firefox reminds you a bunch of times, too. Would be nice if you could just link a new device via QR code (creating an account for you in the background).
This blog post goes over some of that history: https://blog.mozilla.org/services/2014/04/30/firefox-syncs-n...
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Keepass file on Google drive is kind of trivial though.
Never store anything remotely important on a Google service.
Storing copies is ok, though, provided that sensitive information is encrypted.
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> Unfortunately, I no longer recommend Bitwarden for normal people because the built-in password manager in Firefox is too good Interesting, I've always felt that browser-based password managers provided remarkably little value for most people. Using them on mobile is tricky and platform dependent, it's easy to have local-only, non-synced data and then lose it, and being multi-device is trickier, especially in a work…
Firefox password sync just works. It's one of those things I never think about. Watching friends and family struggle with bespoke, poorly integrated password managers makes me cringe and is one of the big reasons I enjoy the seamless experience of the built-in Firefox password manager.
Kind of hope regulation will force apple/google/ms to allow iterations for 3rd parties to integrate with the os but on the other hand that will open a host of issues