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What is Cursor doing that they couldn't do as an extension?
Microsoft has already made it difficulty to compete with their “free” by giving away enough and locking down parts that would allow competition to easily fork it (Python LSP, Extensions marketplace).
Vim and Emacs seem to be thriving but I wouldn’t call them drop in replacements.
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Seems like the only sensible comment in this thread so far. Here's what I imagine it's like working on the Copilot team: > Mgmt: "We need this feature, and we need in 2 weeks." > Devs: "That feature is not technically possible." > Mgmt: "Well, figure out a way to make it possible. That's _your_ problem."
Government: "We fine you two zillion dollars. You should have listened to the dev."
I really don't get why people are mad about this. I get it, people don't like MS but theres really no surprises here, nor is it really all that bad. They put time, effort and money into developing VSCode. Its open source so if you want to use these API's you can in a forked version. And of course if you're developing something thats free for everyone to use, and its not forcing you to use it, I don't see an issue wit…
The VS Code team has kept some APIs in this "preview" mode for many many years. https://github.com/microsoft/vscode/issues/59921 is just one example, which has been requested since early 2018!
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It’s possible to be both critical of Microsoft’s past and also pleased at their last decade of efforts in OSS with things like vscode and typescript.
It’s possible to do both of those and still not trust MS. I don’t believe that vscode will be this free mostly open editor forever. I’m expecting to see vscode pro or something any day. Typescript can, very cynically, be seen as an on-ramp for vscode, as vscode has pretty much the best typescript suppor.
Everyone is reading this as intentional anti-competitive practices. While that may be true, isn't another reasonable explanation that the Copilot development team is moving as fast as they can and these sorts of workarounds are being forced through in the name of team velocity? It takes a lot more time/energy to push public APIs and it's probably a very different team than the team developing the copilot extension. S…
Seems like the only sensible comment in this thread so far. Here's what I imagine it's like working on the Copilot team: > Mgmt: "We need this feature, and we need in 2 weeks." > Devs: "That feature is not technically possible." > Mgmt: "Well, figure out a way to make it possible. That's _your_ problem."
It's not sensible at all.
I really don't get why people are mad about this. I get it, people don't like MS but theres really no surprises here, nor is it really all that bad. They put time, effort and money into developing VSCode. Its open source so if you want to use these API's you can in a forked version. And of course if you're developing something thats free for everyone to use, and its not forcing you to use it, I don't see an issue wit…
Because people are concerned that the embrace, extend, extinguish of Microsoft will rear its ugly head and we’ll all have been bamboozled again to use closed source software.
Microsoft is only doing open source since it proved to be an extremely useful way of doing things, not because they turned into an altruistic company that started caring more about making the world a better place rather than making money.
I honestly don't see the issue here (Full disclosure: I work for Microsoft, but in professional services, not in product - and nevertheless fully expect to be downvoted to oblivion). If these aren't finished, that most likely means that they still haven't stabilized enough to go through the full support and release pipeline--that usually means documenting them, publishing a couple of reference development samples, do…
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> Everyone is reading this as intentional anti-competitive practices. While that may be true, isn't another reasonable explanation that the Copilot development team is moving as fast as they can and these sorts of workarounds are being forced through in the name of team velocity? Wouldn't another way of saying that be "the Copilot development team is leveraging their Microsoft ownership to create products in a way no…
Is it even not available to competitors? Visual studio is open source. Didn't cusor fork it and is building it features directly into the fork? Not doing something like this would make Copilot at a disadvantage.
I don’t know if it’s legal or not, IANAL, but it feels definitely anti competitive.