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Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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A clean page of results that the search engine deems best [i.e., no antagonistic commercial interest driving priorities] for the query and the ability to block domains - that was enough for me. ‘Summarize this page’ is useful as well.

Do you find that this actually saves you time, and that you get to your desired search result faster? These sound like great features to me, but I haven’t found them translating to less time spent searching.

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Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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Kagi has a lot of features that seem “neat”. In fact, their pitch and feature set was enough to convince me to sign up. However, I haven’t been wowed by the service. I do not find there to be a noticeable difference above or below any other search engine I have used (all of which I would rank about the same). I’m curious what other Kagi users are doing or finding that makes their experience so overwhelmingly positive…

Same experience here. I used to try Kagi from time to time back before they cut down the free tier and the results seemed fine but not particularly noteworthy. The lack of ads is of course nice, but having all of my searches tracked under a single login gives me a bad feeling, especially with a company with such a manic and AI focused product strategy. They might be trustworthy now, but we've seen so many companies start out ethical and then change course once the money gets tight or they get more greedy.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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If you forget it's not Google, I don't want to sign up. I want something that reminds me all the time that it's not Google, mainly by its ability to actually find the things I search for.

I'm not sure what they mean. I have mine tuned to the point that I can immediately tell when I accidentally google something because the results are so shockingly bad. Kagi is REALLY good at giving you the ability to filter out the type of results you never want to see.

My main problem is that I don't so much have results I never want to see, as I want to be able to get results from blogs and small sites, the articles that are really interesting.

Google never shows you anything any more from sites that aren't in the top 100 sites by traffic, and many of my searches don't fit that pattern.

Kagi does better, but there isn't a "downrank all the low quality spam" option.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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I'm not sure what they mean. I have mine tuned to the point that I can immediately tell when I accidentally google something because the results are so shockingly bad. Kagi is REALLY good at giving you the ability to filter out the type of results you never want to see.

My main problem is that I don't so much have results I never want to see, as I want to be able to get results from blogs and small sites, the articles that are really interesting. Google never shows you anything any more from sites that aren't in the top 100 sites by traffic, and many of my searches don't fit that pattern. Kagi does better, but there isn't a "downrank all the low quality spam" option.

Small Web is for you: https://blog.kagi.com/small-web

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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For those who haven't jumped ship to Kagi, there's a uBlacklist feed which strips out most big sites dedicated to AI images, with an optional extra "nuclear" feed which also knocks out sites that aren't strictly dedicated to AI images but do have a very large proportion of them. https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist

Thanks for this. Any other blocklists you can share?

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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Try looking for your a local Thai restaurant in your area. Kagi doesn’t profile you so it doesn’t know where you are, so any local searches involve adding a keyword or doing the search a second time with !g. I just tried it on Kagi and it suggested a Yelp link for restaurants in McKinney TX which is nowhere near where I am. Google uses what it knows about you as context — which arguably many folks here are against— b…

> Google uses what it knows about you as context — which arguably many folks here are against— but it does get me the right results in one go. Kagi does let you opt-in your location to improve searches. So there is a way and the user is in full control.

I’m not sure it exists. You can opt in on Kagi maps but not search.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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For those who haven't jumped ship to Kagi, there's a uBlacklist feed which strips out most big sites dedicated to AI images, with an optional extra "nuclear" feed which also knocks out sites that aren't strictly dedicated to AI images but do have a very large proportion of them. https://github.com/laylavish/uBlockOrigin-HUGE-AI-Blocklist

Cancelled my sub recently. Not because I don't like it, but because I'm taking a break before starting my next job and wondering if I can get by without it.. Guess only thing I don't like is their cheapest tier is just slightly under my usage and the next tier is unlimited (more than I need).

I had cancelled mine to see if I benefited from it as well. I re-subbed a few days ago. I was looking for a carpet repair shop in my area a week prior and Google was showing me one, which had turned out to be permanently closed when I went there.

I did the same search on Kagi. Not that Kagi has a strong maps feature or anything but turns out there are at least 4 carpet repair shops in my area, which Kagi showed as top results. Called one, looks good, went and dropped it off. It was 4 minutes away from my location.

I'm surprised it worked for something I have gotten so used taking Google's word for.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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post #42

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This reminds me a bit of the XKCD about filtering chat comments comic. If you have an "AI slop" filter that hits false positives on poorly designed real images and has false negatives on high quality AI images, isn't that overall not just a positive, but potentially a better positive than a filter that perfectly filters AI with no false negatives or false positives?

Not if you care about either the human effort that went into something—which, even if you don't care about anything "fuzzy", is still a costly signal in the economic sense!—or if you care about finding images that are representative of reality. Having a magical oracle that can filter out even really "good" AI imagery would be useful and, critically, would let us do something that is otherwise difficult.

>the human effort that went into something

Do people ever pay for the effort or only the result? Results that cost more effort are something they are willing to pay more for, but the effort itself is not something I've seen directly valued. Some will say they do, but I don't really remember seeing people actually paying more for same or less quality/results just because they took more effort.

Re: Kagi Update: AI Image Filter for Search Results

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post #77

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I'd love to still use it, alas they've partnered with Brave - which made my stop immediately after hearing that - partnering with a crypto+advertising company - no thanks. It might still be the best option of the bunch, which is sad.

Source? All I can find is them integrating Brave Search API as one of their multiple sources. I wouldn't call that a partnership.

It seems they've redacted pretty much everything related to that, and any search sources for that matter. Had to join the discord to even see someone talk about this;

https://layer8.space/@k/113350415680785878

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