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Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

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Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

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Post by swed420 »

worstspotgain wrote: post #95
swed420 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately the passage of time has shown that lesser-evils "vote blue no matter hoo" is not even close to sufficient in addressing this crisis. Capital interests are to blame, and in the US, we have two political parties entirely controlled by capital. Other countries aren't much different. https://medium.com/@samyoureyes/the-busy-workers-handbook-to...

You do realize of course that this is exactly the claim that someone who wanted to get the worst candidate in the history of the presidency (by a few orders of magnitude) elected would make?

Dems propped up Trump using their Pied Piper strategy coupled with Hillary's lousy campaigning "efforts." They dug their own grave, and it doesn't matter to the revolving doors of the machine in the grand scheme, since back to my original point, we have two parties of capital. Democracy is illusory.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/03/how-asset-managers-h...

Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

#102

Post by worstspotgain »

swed420 wrote: post #101
worstspotgain wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You do realize of course that this is exactly the claim that someone who wanted to get the worst candidate in the history of the presidency (by a few orders of magnitude) elected would make?

Dems propped up Trump using their Pied Piper strategy coupled with Hillary's lousy campaigning "efforts." They dug their own grave, and it doesn't matter to the revolving doors of the machine in the grand scheme, since back to my original point, we have two parties of capital. Democracy is illusory. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/03/how-asset-managers-h...

OK tovarich, my regards to Vladimir.

Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

#103

Post by ghastmaster »

polotics wrote: post #86
ghastmaster wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure there will be localized events, but on average, rising temperature and co2 will improve farming world-wide. Hence: For the 2024-25 financial year, India has exported 2.2 lakh tonnes of coffee, up from 1.91 lakh tonnes in the same period last year, showcasing a 15 percent increase. https://english.mathrubhumi.com/news/money/indian-coffee-exp...

What so you got one data point, this is your model? Just please read the IPCC reports, you will find nice maps.

Have a link?

Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

#104

Post by swed420 »

worstspotgain wrote: post #102
swed420 wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dems propped up Trump using their Pied Piper strategy coupled with Hillary's lousy campaigning "efforts." They dug their own grave, and it doesn't matter to the revolving doors of the machine in the grand scheme, since back to my original point, we have two parties of capital. Democracy is illusory. https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2022/03/how-asset-managers-h...

OK tovarich, my regards to Vladimir.

Laughs in Chinese

Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

#105

Post by worstspotgain »

FeepingCreature wrote: post #99
worstspotgain wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You continue to claim that not voting or that voting for Hannibal Lecter is OK in that it's really some sort of a moonshot. After all you agree with me, right? You do realize of course that if someone just wanted to get Hannibal Lecter elected, they would be making claims like these to suppress his opponent's vote?

I think there's a positive argument for voting for Hannibal Lecter. I don't think there's ever a non-lazy argument for not voting. Either one candidate is better or the other. Make up your mind and do your duty. And yeah, sure. I'm not sure why that's relevant though. The argument either holds or it doesn't.

Of course it doesn't. The point is whether it's enough to sway any voters anyway. To keep them from helping the planet by preventing the biggest preventable catastrophe this century, in a couple of weeks.

Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

#106

Post by FeepingCreature »

worstspotgain wrote: post #105
FeepingCreature wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there's a positive argument for voting for Hannibal Lecter. I don't think there's ever a non-lazy argument for not voting. Either one candidate is better or the other. Make up your mind and do your duty. And yeah, sure. I'm not sure why that's relevant though. The argument either holds or it doesn't.

Of course it doesn't. The point is whether it's enough to sway any voters anyway. To keep them from helping the planet by preventing the biggest preventable catastrophe this century, in a couple of weeks.

Or otherwise to damn humanity to millions of deaths that would have been preventable.

Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

#107

Post by arj »

greyw wrote: post #57
arj wrote: post #16

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You mean China that built more solar last year than the rest of the world combined? Not to mention batteries.

Concurrently, china also built the most coal power generation capacity last year than the rest of the world.

Coal in China is declining.

"In the first half of this year, China permitted only 10% of the new coal plants as the same period last year."

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/09/30/china-likely-to-have-lo...

Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

#108

Post by readthenotes1 »

sd9 wrote: post #48
readthenotes1 wrote: post #26

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"the most reasonable way to share this is that we get an equal share" That doesn't sound reasonable to me. How do you to find equal? Who implements the counting and penalties for someone taking more or less than their Fair share? Is there anybody who is going to be left out of "we"? I could go on...

What do you think sounds reasonable?

With the vast amount of money and power involved with any approach, I don't think there is a reasonable solution that is feasible.

Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

#109

Post by xracy »

worstspotgain wrote: post #95
swed420 wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately the passage of time has shown that lesser-evils "vote blue no matter hoo" is not even close to sufficient in addressing this crisis. Capital interests are to blame, and in the US, we have two political parties entirely controlled by capital. Other countries aren't much different. https://medium.com/@samyoureyes/the-busy-workers-handbook-to...

You do realize of course that this is exactly the claim that someone who wanted to get the worst candidate in the history of the presidency (by a few orders of magnitude) elected would make?

You do realize that this is exactly the kind of feedback that people who are tired of the 'vote blue no matter who' refrain have been giving for years, that has been ignored.

Like the people who are getting voted for need to actually turn around and justify the vote we're making for them. And they've been failing to do that, and pointing to the thing that is clearly worse as a reason why they don't have to do better.

Re: Since spring of 2023, the world has been warmer than climate models anticipated

#110

Post by polotics »

ghastmaster wrote: post #103
polotics wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What so you got one data point, this is your model? Just please read the IPCC reports, you will find nice maps.

Have a link?

https://interactive-atlas.ipcc.ch/
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