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Re: Chrome now the most popular browser

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Post by gouranga » Sun, Jul 01, 2012, 9:40 AM UTC

bztzt wrote: post #85

recoiledsnake wrote: post #48

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>But on the weekend they go home and use what they want, and that is clearly chrome At least some of that traffic comes from preinstalled OEM copies, which Google pays the OEMs for having Chrome preinstalled as the default browser. Also, it comes bundled with things like Java, Acrobat Reader,CCleaner, Divx Player, RealPlayer, Avast and Flash etc., so if people just click next, which most tend to do, they end up with…

I didn't realize Chrome was being preloaded by OEMs. It's nice to see that OEMs are actually using their freedom to customize Windows installs to do something socially valuable for a change.

Don't forget Microsoft actually show a browser choice screen when you install windows now. OEMs usually disable that and force a browser on you which doesn't make them good people.

Personally, I'm not sure the term 'socially valuable' applies here as you're giving over your details to a nagware tracking and advertising company at heart. If it was Firefox, I'd agree.

I'm happier to use IE over Chrome as Microsoft have features like tracking protection lists built in and a tough stance on tracking.

I'm happier to use Firefox over both though.

Re: Chrome now the most popular browser

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Post by alttab » Sun, Jul 01, 2012, 3:22 PM UTC

gcp wrote: post #100

redthrowaway wrote: post #90

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> Google is hurting Firefox ...By giving Mozilla $300MM a year?

Don't equate a business marketing/advertising decision maximizing Google profits with philanthropy.

Then it sounds like Mozilla is hurting themselves by relying on cash flow from their competitors.

Re: Chrome now the most popular browser

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Post by Jyaif » Sun, Jul 01, 2012, 8:58 PM UTC

Gustomaximus wrote: post #51

abrahamsen wrote: post #44

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Doubt it. It is the market share of MS Windows, not MSIE, that makes tying a legally questionable practice.

I seem to recall it expires at a certain date and would have to be renewed. Today they do have a case to argue that their OS dominance doesn't guarantee browser dominance. It is very different from when this complaint was made as there is healthy competition without the browser select screen. But personally I would like to see it stay.

It doesn't guarantee browser dominance anymore precisely because of the select screen.

Re: Chrome now the most popular browser

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Post by seanmcdirmid » Mon, Jul 02, 2012, 2:42 AM UTC

xiaoma wrote: post #97

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #95

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I disagree with your claim that bandwidth in 1st tier cities is anywhere as good as in the states. At work, at home, and in the cafe my internet is always slow, even when pinging local sites (Beijing). I'm always amazed when I go back to the states to visit and I can use...Netflix at my sister's place. Americans have bandwidth that we Beijingers can only dream of. True about IE and banks, but its easy enough to use I…

It sounds like you just have a terrible connection. I had a 10mb connection for http://battery-pack-adapter.com/beijing-unicom-broadband-spe... As for banking, the problem was that their active X component was a .exe download. Even with IE, it wasn't doable on a mac. ICBC did claim to have a mac app in the works, but I didn't see it before leaving.

Terrible connection in one location could just be a fluke, but in more than three locations? We've been thinking about upgrading our link, but many of our problems at home are that entire sites don't work, especially at night when internet use is very popular.

China is still not as wired as the states, South Korea is much better and could be considered to excede the states, even countries like Thailand and Indonesia provide much better bandwidth when I visit (and no GFW to boot!).

Re: Chrome now the most popular browser

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Post by gcp » Thu, Jul 05, 2012, 2:18 PM UTC

alttab wrote: post #102

gcp wrote: post #100

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Don't equate a business marketing/advertising decision maximizing Google profits with philanthropy.

Then it sounds like Mozilla is hurting themselves by relying on cash flow from their competitors.

Mozilla doesn't compete with Google on search. (Regardless of that, your statement is quite the non-sequitur, because Mozilla optimizing their income isn't "hurting themselves")