MASSIVE Storms in VA area where us-east-1 is. 326,000 customers without power already, worst lightning I have seen in my 20 years of life. Sky is intense blue/green/purple. This is most likely what the issue is
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Heroku is down again
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
No matter how powerful we become as a species with our technology, we are still at the mercy of the clouds. Pretty cool if you think about it.
Or if we just built our power grid underground like rational people.
Underground cables have many problems like rats (and other vermin) or people harvesting copper/metals.
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#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hopefully one day it will be feasible to host our computing architecture in space and avoid all these terrestrial obstructions.
What about when a booster goes off by mistake and sends your data flying into the sun?
Sun is far away, you'd still get data back before it hits, but if buster made satelite hit another satelite or descend to earth it would be a worse situation.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
No matter how powerful we become as a species with our technology, we are still at the mercy of the clouds. Pretty cool if you think about it.
Well, until we figure out plausible ways to control weather reliably on a large enough scale, at least. Without killing the atmosphere or our species or anything like that.
Or each other...
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#105Why does the AWS dashboard show all green when that is most definitely not the case? http://status.aws.amazon.com/
Power went out = service disruption.
It's underhanded to call it a "performance issue," if not an outright lie, albeit a small one.
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#106Google Appengine's just fine. Dont't know how many AZ i'm on and don't want to know :))
The more i see about amazon failures the more i think VM are just not high enough for me in the abstraction layer...
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#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
i think netflix ceo just signed up for a rackspace account
Rackspace got hit by a truck last year and went down for a while too. Not cloud != perfectly reliable.
Slightly different scenario however: the power was shut off by the fire marshall if I recollect correctly.
Rackspace (and many, many other co's) tend to have functional UPS units & generators. Amazon tends to choose the cheapest datacenter facility imaginable and then these sort of failures occur.
Given their size they'll inevitably fix the power issues though -- they've got the finances & they're capable to add a few levels of redundancy.
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#108Simple solution to this is to have a backup or failover to a non-AWS Datacenter too, basically don't be just dependent on one Datacenter. E.g. MS Azure/Google/Rackspace
This not only spreads your risks but keeps your customers happy.
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#109Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or if we just built our power grid underground like rational people.
Underground cables have many problems like rats (and other vermin) or people harvesting copper/metals.
Do they? Here in Germany the entire cabling within cities is underground, only the high voltage long distance lines are above ground. I've never heard a story about people stealing underground cables (they do steal e.g. train track above ground cabling). That also wouldn't make sense, digging up those cables is much more effort than taking them down from a post.
I've also never heard stories about issues with rats.
Power outages still happen, but they are quite rare - in 30 years I can only remember twoish.
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#110MASSIVE Storms in VA area where us-east-1 is. 326,000 customers without power already, worst lightning I have seen in my 20 years of life. Sky is intense blue/green/purple. This is most likely what the issue is
No matter how powerful we become as a species with our technology, we are still at the mercy of the clouds. Pretty cool if you think about it.
Not cool at all.
All it means is that humans are not yet powerful enough to make the environment work as it should (ie serve humans).