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It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word

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Re: It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word

#101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of plastic parts in cars and you can print them with 3D printer. I don't think that anything really changed because of that.

Because those are irrelevant to the point being made in the GP

GP? What happened to the good old "OP"?

Re: It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word

#102
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The journalist is making a product for the reader in the best case, their job is to help the reader. The second example you mention is a typical example of clickbait journalism, where the journalist has betrayed the reader and is trying to steal their attention, because they actually serve advertisers. But the first example is not very useful either. That journalist could be replaced by a fully automated thermometer.…

>your definition, which you seem to have just… made up? See: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/journal Specifically noun, senses 2B through 2F. I expect journalists to record journals and nothing more nor nothing less, not editorials or opinion pieces which are written by authors or columnists or whatever.

Dictionary similarity is not how people get their job descriptions. If you want to just pick a similar word from the dictionary, why are journalists sharing this stuff? Journals are typically private, after all. If someone read your journal, you might be annoyed, right?

Or, from your definition, apparently:

> the part of a rotating shaft, axle, roll, or spindle that turns in a bearing

I don’t think these journalists rotate much at all!

A better definition is one of… journalism.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/journalism

journalism, the collection, preparation, and distribution of news and related commentary and feature materials through such print and electronic media as […]

That said, I don’t think an argument from definition is all that good anyway. These definitions are descriptive, not prescriptive. Journalism is a profession, they do what they do for the public good. If you think that it would be better for the field of journalism to produce a contextless log of events, defend that idea in and of itself, rather than leaning on some definition.

Re: It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word

#103
Distorting the old Chinese proverb, “The best time to stop taking Sam Altman at his word was the first time he opened his mouth. The second best time is now”. We’ve known he’s a scammer for a long time.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi...

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/richardnieva/worldcoin-...

Re: It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word

#106
post #74

sama is best match with today's LLM because of the "scaling law" like Zuckerberg described. Everyone is burning cash to race to the end, but the billion dollar question is, what is the end for transformer based LLM? Is there an end at all?

The end is super-human reasoning along with super-human intuition, based on humanity knowledge.

Re: It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word

#107

> At a high enough level of abstraction, Altman’s entire job is to keep us all fixated on an imagined AI future I think the job of a CEO is not to tell you the truth, and the truth is probably more often than not, the opposite. What if gpt5 is vaporware, and there’s no equivalent 3 to 4 leap to be realized with current deep learning architectures? What is OpenAI worth then?

I'm paying my subscription and I'd probably pay 5x more if they would charge it to keep access to the current service. ChatGPT 4o is incredibly useful for me today, regardless of whether GPT5 will be good or not. I'm not sure how does that reflect OpenAI cost, but those company costs are just bubbles of air anyway.

Would you be willing to share how you're using it?

I keep hearing from people who find these enormous benefits from LLMs. I've been liking them as a search engine (especially finding things buried in bad documentation), but can't seem to find the life-changing part.

Re: It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word

#108
> Altman expects that his technology will fix the climate, help humankind establish space colonies, and discover all of physics.

Yes. We've been through this again and again. Technology does not follow potential. It follows incentive. (Also, “all of physics”? Wtf is he smoking?)

> It’s much more pleasant fantasizing about a benevolent future AI, one that fixes the problems wrought by climate change, than dwelling upon the phenomenal energy and water consumption of actually existing AI today.

I mean, everything good in life uses energy, that’s not AIs fault per se. However, we should absolutely evaluate tech anchored in the present, not the future. Especially with something we understand so poorly like emergent properties of AI. Even when there’s an expectation of rapid changes, the present is a much better proxy than yet-another sociopath with a god-complex whose job is to be a hype-man. Everyone’s predictions are garbage. At least the present is real.

Re: It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word

#109
I sort of wish there was a filter for my life that would ignore everything AI (stories about AI, people talking about AI and of course content generated by AI).

The world has become a less trustworthy place for a lot of reasons and AI is only making it worse, not better.

Re: It's Time to Stop Taking Sam Altman at His Word

#110
Nobody is taking Sam Altman at his word lol, these ideas about intelligence have been believed for a long time in the tech world and the guy is just the best at monetizing them. People are pursuing this path because of a general conviction in these ideas of themselves, I guess to people like Atlantic writers Sam Altman is the first time they've encountered them but it really has nothing to do with Sam Altman.
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