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Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Post by Keyframe »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #79
JKCalhoun wrote: post #35

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Brothers Hildebrandt, Jean Giraud, Richard Corben....

But not Darrel K. Sweet[0] (one of the more published artists). His people looked like bobbleheads. He wasn't really so good at getting the human form right. But he was painfully detailed, and probably pretty reliable, so he got a lot of work. My fave for the human form, was Frank Frazetta[1]. He actually had a fairly classical bent to his work, and was probably an inspiration for Vallejo. Vallejo's people are perfec…

I always felt Vallejo's figures pumped up for their figures vs Frazetta's worked for theirs.

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Post by bigstrat2003 »

Symbiote wrote: post #41
Dalewyn wrote: post #22

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I'm not making any commentary on the art thereof. This is a forum hosted by venture capitalist investors and frequented primarily by IT professionals ("hackers"), unwittingly opening some NSFW material probably won't fly well in that kind of environment.

If this counts as NSFW, then browse with images enabled. The National Gallery (of the UK) has this page one click from the homepage, "Our most famous paintings" https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/paintings/must-sees

This does in fact count as NSFW in every workplace I've ever been in. Perhaps stop trying to argue with the poster who was merely trying to give people a friendly warning just so they know they might get in trouble if someone sees them looking at this art at work.

Whether the standards of workplaces should allow artistic nudity is completely beside the point. Neither you, nor I, nor Dalewyn control such things. All we can do is work around them.

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Post by herodoturtle »

pavlov wrote: post #59

I used to be a teenage demoscene graphics artist back in the waning days of the Amiga and earliest days of Windows-based demos. Vallejo was definitely a popular source and influence. But demoscene graphics were really more of a technical competition than expressive art. The participants were teenagers — it was pretty obvious that most 16-year-old boys don't paint like Frazetta while also having mastered the skills fo…

Awesome work!

And shoutout to the demosceners here - mode13h for the win!

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Post by mrob »

The high resolution but limited colors example looks like screen printing. Screen printing involves squeezing ink through stencils supported by a fine mesh. It can produce excellent detail, but you need a separate stencil for each color so the number of colors is usually low.

A lot of old arcade and pinball machines used screen printing for the cabinet artwork. I like it better than standard CYMK printing because it can produce more saturated colors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_printing

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Post by fullstop »

ckozlowski wrote: post #96

I was delighted to see this name pop up in my HN feed of all places. I've the joy of being married to a fantasy illustrator, and through her I've been able to attend a number of fantasy art conventions and shows. As I've seen a number of comments as well as the article asking about such, I can say Boris is doing quite well! He's a regular fixture at Illuxcon ( https://imaginativerealism.com/ ), a fantasy/sci-fi art s…

Ha, Boris is my neighbor. I used to see him and Julie walking their dog frequently, but it's mostly Julie now. I knew that they were painters, but I didn't appreciate who they were until recently and it's better that way. We say "Hi" to each other as we pass and go do our own thing.

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Post by strix_varius »

LanceH wrote: post #97
surfingdino wrote: post #47

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The 80s had a different approach to nudity and body shapes. It fit in with the zeitgeist.

The 70's certainly did. The 80's is when everything started to get covered up. As to why? I think you'll find Sir Mix-a-lot has some answers for you.

I was born in the mid 80s so I don't get this reference - what do you mean?

(I was struck by how erotic the works in the original article were. They would nearly all be censored out of any big name AI today... Which seems kind of a pity)

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Post by btbuildem »

pavlov wrote: post #59

I used to be a teenage demoscene graphics artist back in the waning days of the Amiga and earliest days of Windows-based demos. Vallejo was definitely a popular source and influence. But demoscene graphics were really more of a technical competition than expressive art. The participants were teenagers — it was pretty obvious that most 16-year-old boys don't paint like Frazetta while also having mastered the skills fo…

Wow I remember the floating baby head! Yah this was the waning days for sure.. I think I'm a few years ahead of you. The demo scene back then was something else, sneakernet and illicit basement bazaars...

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Post by vintermann »

actionfromafar wrote: post #83
predictsoft wrote: post #81

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I used a VGA monitor with my Amiga 1200 (with an adapter). It was not flickery at all and was full resolution.

Yes, I know. I had that setup myself. :) I posit though, that by the time Amiga 1200 was out, Amiga as a commercial venture was already dead in the water. The 1200 was a last ditch effort. Still loved it, of course.

I remember that there was some sort of shareware with a 40 day trial that my brother ran, but it stayed at 40 days. They had removed the clock as a cost saving measure on the A1200.

Yup, pretty desperate.

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Post by BizarroLand »

eru wrote: post #23
rawgabbit wrote: post #19

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It is also interesting that when I ask ChatGPT to create an image inspired by Vallejo or Frank Frazetta, I get hit by content policy violation. I don’t see anything indecent about heroic fantasy. Oh well c'est la vie.

ChatGPT also refuses to make pictures of yoghurt. It's refined by a special flavour of prudes.

That's what happens when you let Dark Helmet dictate the outputs.

"Yogurt! Yogurt! I hate Yogurt! Even with Strawberries."

Re: Boris Vallejo and the pixel art of the demoscene

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Post by int_19h »

VoodooJuJu wrote: post #54
lcrz wrote: post #51

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This comment exemplifies the puritanical view that nakedness is somehow bad or impure. Notice that the men in the paintings of Vallejo are also almost completely naked, hacking away at monsters with large weapons. Yet you did not point to them and say they were indecent. I really hope that the rest of the world doesn’t take over the sex/violence sensitivities as are prevalent in the US.

Modesty is a virtue shared by many cultures throughout the world. It is not exclusive to the US or Puritans. And the US is not a cultural monolith. Millions of people in the US do not hold modesty as a virtue.

"Modesty" is culturally defined in the first place. What you would consider "modest" today often would be extremely immodest a century ago. And, conversely, some societies don't consider nudity to be immodest in and of itself.
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