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Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

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Re: Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

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I actually do believe that AI can make someone feel more comfortable with their purchase. Let's break down the communications that realtors currently do to comfort buyers (mostly over text, which is also how we communicate): Tell you comparably priced properties - we do this. Remind you the steps in the process - we do this. Tell you basic stats about local transactions (such as telling dejected buyers that only 1/6…

Fair enough, and I wish you luck because I welcome down pressure on existing fees. My take is simply that the positioning seems to unnecessarily make it a fight against all buyer agents, whereas it might be better to start by targeting the buyers who already "get it".

Currently, the description on our website says that we use AI to help you interpret real estate data and gain an edge on other buyers - nothing about fighting other agents.

I think that is injected opinion from commenters here. & yes, we are targeting buyers who already believe that they need a service like this due to their past or current experience

Re: Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

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Our agents have real estate licenses and we are registered with a real estate brokerage.

lol. it's not too late to delete this. the fact that you don't have the fundamentals together does not inspire any confidence.

I don’t understand, what about this says they don’t have their fundamentals together?

Re: Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

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There are good realtors and bad realtors. I could imagine an AI chat bot that was better than some of the mouth breathers out there. But I wouldn't use those people anyway. But there are good people in the real estate business . if you want someone that can negotiate a good deal, and answer complex questions specific to the local laws, who knows the local neighborhood, and the local realtors, who can handle last minu…

It's funny you say that, because we are actually working on this exact tool right now. I'd love to chat if you'd like to discuss?

Re: Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

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The 6% fee was paid by the sellers, not the buyers. Buyers didn't pay anything to the agents. But even then, the buyer's agents would "refund" the buyer ~2% of the fee as a cashback incentive to use a specific agent. but recently, the rule changed so the sellers are only required to pay the 3% fee to the seller's agent and buyers need to negotiate their own deal with the buyer's agent. Currently, there are many broke…

> The 6% fee was paid by the sellers, not the buyers. Buyers didn't pay anything to the agents. Buyers are the ones paying everything. At 6%, that means the seller is willing to accept 94% of the sale price for the deal. So with a lower fee or simply less middle men feasting on low information transacters, a buyer with 94-100% could purchase that house and both parties would be happier.

No. Buyers never consent for "their" money to go to the buyer's agent or sellers agent. The selling agent's contract with the seller (not the buyer) is the seller will pay the 3% fee to seller's agent and offer a 3% fee to the buyer's agent.

Buyers historically have never negotiated the fee paid to their agent, other than choosing an agent that would refund part of their fee.

Re: Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

#105

Best of luck. I’m a commercial real estate professional who has spent time as a broker, lender, and private equity investor. Residential definitely is a lot More of a ridiculous market. But ultimately as an agent, you get hired to work with mostly irrational actors (sellers and buyers). As someone who is very interested in AI and taught myself how to code (I don’t know any other real estate people who know anything a…

The ludicrous 6% fee is whats going to drive adoption by end users and in turn by brokers. Move that fee to 1% for buyer agent and you have a massive market.

IF they can deliver a product that actually works, yes.

Re: Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

#106

I am actually your target market. We are looking to buy a house early next year. But, one thing that put me off is that you don’t list what fees you charge, is it flat rate or a percentage, ..etc. In the FAQ I see this but no mention of the standard terms of the buyers agreement: > Do I need to sign a buyer agreement? > We will let you know if you need to sign a buyer agreement. You will for sure need to sign a buyer…

Other relators do not put their fee pricing on their websites so we decided to follow suit. We have the same pricing model - negotiable. But we provide better service.

Re: Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

#107

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The ludicrous 6% fee is whats going to drive adoption by end users and in turn by brokers. Move that fee to 1% for buyer agent and you have a massive market.

If there was a serious opportunity to arbitrage under the 6% fee, you bet that someone would have done it already — and well before the AI era.

To be fair, NAR goes to great lengths to maintain their monopoly and lock out anyone who tries to buy or sell a house without using them....specifically because they know they're priced insanely high for the services they provide and are in real danger of being undercut.

Re: Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

#108

I am actually your target market. We are looking to buy a house early next year. But, one thing that put me off is that you don’t list what fees you charge, is it flat rate or a percentage, ..etc. In the FAQ I see this but no mention of the standard terms of the buyers agreement: > Do I need to sign a buyer agreement? > We will let you know if you need to sign a buyer agreement. You will for sure need to sign a buyer…

Other relators do not put their fee pricing on their websites so we decided to follow suit. We have the same pricing model - negotiable. But we provide better service.

> But we provide better service.

How would a prospective customer know that?

Re: Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The 6% fee was paid by the sellers, not the buyers. Buyers didn't pay anything to the agents. But even then, the buyer's agents would "refund" the buyer ~2% of the fee as a cashback incentive to use a specific agent. but recently, the rule changed so the sellers are only required to pay the 3% fee to the seller's agent and buyers need to negotiate their own deal with the buyer's agent. Currently, there are many broke…

> The 6% fee was paid by the sellers, not the buyers. Buyers didn't pay anything to the agents. Buyers are the ones paying everything. At 6%, that means the seller is willing to accept 94% of the sale price for the deal. So with a lower fee or simply less middle men feasting on low information transacters, a buyer with 94-100% could purchase that house and both parties would be happier.

You can switch the words “buyer” and “seller” in your statement and it still works. If you want to consider it being paid by the buyer, you can, or you can say the seller pays it. It is all factored into the deal either way.

I would argue, though, that it is more accurate to say it is paid by the seller, though, since they are the ones who agree to the percentage with the agent, and who signs the contract to pay the agent.

Re: Launch HN: Modern Realty (YC S24) – AI Real Estate Agent for Home Buyers

#110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The ludicrous 6% fee is whats going to drive adoption by end users and in turn by brokers. Move that fee to 1% for buyer agent and you have a massive market.

If there was a serious opportunity to arbitrage under the 6% fee, you bet that someone would have done it already — and well before the AI era.

> When the National Association of Realtors signed a landmark $418 million settlement in March, economists and academics predicted that the deal — which included an agreement to upend key practices concerning how real estate agents are paid — would create the most significant shift to the industry in a century.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/16/realestate/realtor-commis...

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