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The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Re: The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Post by bombcar »

bigallen wrote: post #97
tetris11 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do wonder who the game appeals to though, since it's sold on PC and Xbox. I played it as a child on my PC and the experience was quite immersive, even if the graphics were bad. I recently played the new one on the console, and it just felt... off. I didn't feel immersed, though the plane handling seemed realistic. I think my brain was primed console-wise for something similar to a GTAV flying experience, and I can…

For what it’s worth, I really really enjoy flying over places I did/will travel to. Last year, I had a backpacking trip of Yosemite valley planned I was very nervous about. I flew the route a few times (in an F-22) and it calmed me down, knowing when I’ll be climbing, when I’ll have the best views, etc. Probably not a standard use, just my $0.02

This is actually the use that a number of private pilots I know personally - they fly an unfamiliar route in the simulator.

Yes it’s not a professional flying simulator but it’s good enough to get an idea of where you’re going, what you’re doin, what you’ll see and it helps tremendously especially when you’re flying VFR if you don’t have GPS.

Re: The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Post by sandworm101 »

knodi123 wrote: post #49
jinushaun wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would love a real world driving sim. I don’t really care for driving on race tracks, but real roads.

I've always said, a version of Grand Theft Auto, but with a real map of [your city], and with cops that enforce driving rules, would be a priceless tool for teaching young drivers. After I passed driver's ed, I still spent the next two years getting lost within a few miles of my house. But drop me in any alley in GTA5 and I can get to any other spot in a pretty short path (although I confess it often does involve dan…

>> would be a priceless tool for teaching young drivers.

And an amazing resource for organizing street racing or any other event where knowledge of average police response times might be useful. Playtesting exactly how one can best evade pursuing police on realworld streets would be very fun.

Re: The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Post by mark_undoio »

Tangential but I keep wishing for an MS Space Simulator revival - I realise there are other games that scratch that itch these days but I did enjoy how very seriously it took accurate simulation (plus occasional silly touches like the various futuristic spacecraft).

Re: The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Post by NikkiA »

dybber wrote: post #58

My biggest issue with Flight Simulator 2020 doesn’t seem to be addressed. It contains tutorials on how to control the planes, but no storyline, no built in missions. If you are motivated by a narrative, this is not a game for you. It only does the simulation, but doesn’t really help people get into the game through a kind of narrative. I have no desire to learn all the details of an aircrafts controls. I might have t…

The biggest part of MSFS 2024 is the 'career system' - ie proc. gen missions, I'm surprised you missed it.

Re: The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Post by NikkiA »

deanCommie wrote: post #15

One thing I've always wished Microsoft would do with every version of Flight Simulator but especially this one is have an "Arcade flying" mode. I want to see the hyper-realistic rendered world in as high resolution as possible. I want to fly around the planet. But I don't want to be limited to the detailed specifics (and speeds!) of real life planes. Why can't we have a mode to make a plane as easy to fly as it is in…

They kinda did that with 2012's 'MS Flight', it was massively panned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Flight

Re: The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Post by NikkiA »

ekianjo wrote: post #13
w_for_wumbo wrote: post #10

Maybe I'm being simplistic of overly optimistic - but I would think that there would be a massive opportunity for collaboration with fluid dynamics to simulate and 'fast-forward' the weather to see likely impacts. It might not be correct the first time, but as we map the changes from prediction against the reality, we could adjust for factors that we hadn't considered. It seems to me that we shouldn't be too far from…

predicting weather beyond a very short amount of time is a myth or a delusion. its a chaotic system just like any fluid that goes out of the newtonian zone.

Predicting it well enough for real world uses is a myth/delusion, yes, but predicting it well enough for entertainment purposes in a flight simulator is an entirely different, and much more mistake-tolerant, proposition.

Re: The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Post by BSDobelix »

quibono wrote: post #96
BSDobelix wrote: post #92

I've played MSFS, X-Plane and DCS, and to be honest there is only one sim made with love and a near perfect flight model and systems, and that is FalconBMS combined with the dynamic campaigns hands down the only flight sim I really enjoy ATM.

Thanks for the recommendation, I'm going to give it a try! To be fair to MSFS they're not that well suited to the military side of flying. GA and airliners are great now though so I always thought of DCS and MSFS filling different niches and having a completely different focus.

Absolutely MSFS and X-Plane serve a different side then DCS and FalconBMS, have Fun ;)

BTW: If you don't want to read 1000 hour manuals:

https://www.falcon-lounge.com/

https://learning.falcon-lounge.com/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1...

Re: The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Post by quibono »

BSDobelix wrote: post #107
quibono wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the recommendation, I'm going to give it a try! To be fair to MSFS they're not that well suited to the military side of flying. GA and airliners are great now though so I always thought of DCS and MSFS filling different niches and having a completely different focus.

Absolutely MSFS and X-Plane serve a different side then DCS and FalconBMS, have Fun ;) BTW: If you don't want to read 1000 hour manuals: https://www.falcon-lounge.com/ https://learning.falcon-lounge.com/mod/forum/discuss.php?d=1...

Ah lovely, thank you for the links :)

Re: The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

mplewis wrote: post #39
rkagerer wrote: post #38

Looks awesome, shame it streams from the Cloud instead of running locally.

How would you be able to run a game of this scale locally?

With a lot of storage. But also, they have streams of realtime-ish data for other planes, weather, ships, etc that feed into the simulated world.

Re: The ambition of Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024

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Post by two_handfuls »

jinushaun wrote: post #47
polishdude20 wrote: post #7

It would be so cool to use Microsoft's "earth copy" for stuff other than just flight sim. They say it's the most accurate representation of the earth ever. Wonder if you can do some interesting science with that.

I would love a real world driving sim. I don’t really care for driving on race tracks, but real roads.

Check out Euro Truck Simulator then, I hear it's very good.
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