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What Is a Particle? (2020)

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Re: What Is a Particle? (2020)

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As usual comments here are more informative than the article. But no one mentioned that this is not a physics subject. The question “What is a particle?” belongs to philosophy not to physics. The problem for physicists is that they assume the Newtonian worldview that the world is made of indivisible units of matter called particles. [1] This assumption cannot be questioned. It is a dogma of the profession. But their experiments tell physicists again and again that the world is not made of indivisible units of matter. Physicists can either respect their experiments and accept that the world is not made of indivisible units of matter called particles or choose sophistry and try to fit their dogma into nature by wordplay. Physicists chose the latter and instead of dropping their dogma they keep changing the definition of the word “particle”. It does not matter what you call those indivisible units of matter. Physicists used to call them “particle” then “field”, then “excitation” and many other names that can be used case by case to save their sacred Newtonian dogma. Physicists’ dilemma is that they do business under the professional name of “particle” physicists. If there is no particle their profession would be redundant. Obviously they cannot call themselves “excitations of the field physicists”. So they keep the word particle but keep changing the meaning of it and they blame the public for not understanding physics jargon. My advice to physicists: respect the authority of your own experiments and drop the Newtonian dogma of a material world made of indivisible units of matter.

[1] "God in the beginning formed matter in solid, massy, hard, impenetrable movable particles." Isaac Newton, Optics, 1704, Book III, page: 375

Re: What Is a Particle? (2020)

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I have another definition, or at least this is how I think of it. I’m not sure many people would buy into it. In the standard model, the fermions are particles, like the electrons, quarks, neutrinos. Electroweak, strong force, gravity are fields. This means the photon is not a particle, but just a field excitation. I know people can think of fermions as fields, I just think of them as particles.

Checkout energywavetheory.com. It's essential the Aether, but really makes you think.

I flipped through some of the content. It's very well presented, but unfortunately it is pseudo-science gibberish.

Re: What Is a Particle? (2020)

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A particle is a node in the universal interaction graph. “Space”, however, is a derivative attribute emerging as the “distance” between particles in the graph; there is no “space”, only metrics. Reality does not exist between measurements/interactions; the outcome is calculated on demand.

So basically a tree doesn't fall in the forest if there's no one around to see it? There's no forest and there are not trees. It's all spawned as needed when we go for a hike? Kinda arrogant don't you think?

A tree interacts with many things, not just human observers. We are not special in any way. This discreteness is only relevant and/or observable when we look at individual particles that rarely interact with anything else.

Re: What Is a Particle? (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You can't detect without affecting. "These detectors are distant enough that what they do cannot affect the electron, i.e., the electron does not know about the detectors." We detect gravitational waves without "affecting". The electron mass and charge send out signals. Have the detectors sufficiently far away that they can't affect the particle yet. Get the detection and then know where the particle was and its ma…

> The electron mass and charge send out signals. This affects them.

So LIGO detects a gravitational wave. Optical telescope data indicates that the wave was generated 10 billion light years away from two neutron stars. So, then, LIGO today affected the two neutron stars 10 billion years ago? Affected them today?

Re: What Is a Particle? (2020)

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I'm reading "The Big Picture" (Sean Carroll) right now. I'd love to have a real physicist explain this, but: When we think of what a particle IS, we often think as though it were dirt, or a billiard ball, or something. As though there were some other substance of which it's made. At least I do. But the definition is as low as you can go. It's hard to wrap your head around that. Unless you're trained to do so, I guess…

https://youtu.be/j2oSyAfPzWg?si=bwM2NAsORzkqLQLk Fun fields discussion on what particles are…

What a trip, the guest speaker was clearly a pseudoscientist, talking about "evolution fields" and "mind fields" and equating fields to souls.

Re: What Is a Particle? (2020)

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One of the biggest problems of a scientific education is the lack of hubris taught. Science has a very clear box it works remarkably well in, but it far too often strays outside of this box.

We should have been told that science is about the prediction and description of things. This is very different to what things actually are. If only scientists didn't believe from the very beginning that they were studying what reality of things are, they wouldn't spend so much time unlearning this later in life.

Re: What Is a Particle? (2020)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And electrons being electrons also means that they are not excitations in quantum fields You’re going against the dominant interpretation of QFT here, aren’t you?

I have no idea whether or not most physicist think that there are actually quantum fields in the universe. The Navier–Stokes equations provide a good description of milk mixing into my coffee, but should I therefore conclude that my coffee mug is filled with density and velocity fields and that what coffee really is, is a region in spacetime with a nonzero value of the coffee density field? Quantum fields have gauge…

> I am not a physicist and I am certainly in dangerous half-knowledge territory here.

Gauging is just dealing with the fact that there is no absolute universal fixed value against which can compare a value at some point in a field; but we still want to consider values at one or more points in the field.

Let's do a really simple static model of the atmosphere, with a single scalar value: air pressure at each point. Let's use a simple device: an air pressure gauge which reports some fraction of a pressure measured when we push a "calibrate now" button. We'll call this a calibrated barometer. We can then recover the full air pressure field by measuring at every point in space (not space-time, the staticity means there is no time-dependence to the measurements; we can do them in any order and not have to worry about time of day or season).

Where do we push the "calibrate now" button? At some point on the surface? At mean sea level? At the top of the atmosphere? The choice of any of these will provide different readings on our gauge (i.e., it reports some fraction of the calibrated pressure, will differ when the calibration point is 101 kPa vs some fraction of the value actually measured at a specific point on the surface). But with a bit of care in choices of units, whatever we use as the calibration point, the difference between two different points in space will be the same.

A good choice of gauge lets use our calibrated barometer as an altimeter. In aviation, aircraft pressure altimeters have a calibration knob, which is used to recalibrate during different stages of a flight. Common calibration points are: QFE, field elevation, which lets one know how far above an airfield one is if separated only vertically from it, at the cost of being unable to simply compare the vertical separation between two aircraft above two different airfields; SPS (the pressure of the standard atmospheric pressure, 1013.25 hPa) is a global setting useful for quickly determining the vertical separation between two reasonably nearby aircraft, at the cost of not being able to quickly determine height above terrain, or even the height above mean sea level; QNH is another local setting which lets one compare how high above mean sea level the aircraft is, at the cost of needing to know the height above mean sea level of local terrain, and not being able to easily compare vertical distances with aircraft using one of the other two calibrations.

All three settings are "redundant descriptions" of the aviator's atmosphere. They describe the same column of air, but each makes it easier to pinpoint different hazards scattered through that column (the ground, other aircraft in level flight, the aircraft's operating ceiling).

We could complicate the atmosphere by introducing time dependency (at night in cold dry winter a QNH altitude will be fewer RADAR-measured metres above the same patch of ground), and atmospheric interactions (atmospheric waves, Bernouilli effects from winds). Each complication can be made to vanish via a careful choice of gauge, although it gets harder and harder to write down such a gauge as complications increase. (As a result, in aviation they allow for a certain amount of measurement error and safety margin, and comparisons with different means of measuring altitude like radio altimeters and satellite multilateration.)

In a quantum field theory (QFT), one might choose a gauge in which some particles vanish. A sibling comment pointed out that very commonly one wants to choose a gauge in which gauge bosons like photons don't need to be counted, rather than a gauge in which there is a sea of an enormous number of low-energy gauge bosons. Choosing the gauge does not eliminate the low-energy gauge bosons; in general QFT field values are time-dependent (and usually gauged to admit only "relevant" fluctuations). Low-energy fluctuations can be boosted into "real particles" by relativistic observers, and strongly accelerated observers can count more particles than a weakly accelerated one. Therefore the choice of a gauge for one observer might make calculations for another observer more difficult.

In QED there are several well-known and frequently-used gauges roughly analogous to SPS/QFE/QNH, and one often chooses one of them for convenience. Each of tehse gauges breaks the gauge freedom.

Gauge freedom means simply an uncalibrated system waiting to be calibrated. A common illustration of this is to choose a non-rotating sphere and setting down latitude/longitude. A less-gauge-symmetrical rotating sphere naturally picks out latitudes (the poles and the equator, notably), but there's still gauge freedom in longitude that we can fix by choosing a prime meridian, and gauge freedom in picking out one of the primary compass directions. These choices do not change the sphere or its rotation (or non-rotation), and of course one can choose any other set of coordinates one wants.

Once one has fixed the gauge on the sphere, though, one can more easily compare positions on the surface: is point A in the northern hemisphere, is point B in the eastern hemisphere? Just asking if point B is North-East of point A requires us to at least choose a north pole -- that can be one of two places on a rotating sphere, and it can be anywhere at all on a non-rotating one. The "right hand rule" is the conventional "gauge" for rotating astronomical bodies: anticlockwise rotation around the north pole (right hand: thumb up, fingers curled). But we don't have to use that convention as our "gauge". (We also have a problem for a truly non-rotating spherical object: where's the north pole? We might solve that by using an imagnariy axis parallel to the axis of a relevant body like the local star or the parent galaxy).

Finally, in many gauge theories there are gauge invariant quantities. On our spheres the geodesic intervals between two points are gauge invariant. The gauge tells us something about direction. In practice, fixing a gauge also usually involves choosing (and scaling) units: on our geodesic which might run south-east to north-west (gauge problem), the length might be measured in metres or light seconds (units problem) or kilometres and light-years (scaling problem). We might want to label different points along the geodesic in latitude/longitude (coordinate problem) rather than adapted Cartesian sphere-centred/sphere-fixed ("ECEF" on Earth) or tangential ("Local East-North[-Up]", "LENU") ones.

Re: What Is a Particle? (2020)

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A particle is a thing you can "look" at, and say "that's a particle". It is whatever one says it is. They're not exactly discovered, they're invented. Fundamental in this context is not so much a word as it is an analogy. And, don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean particles don't exist. They do. But, a particle is whatever we say it is.

"Things are named before they are understood." -- Matt Strassler

Further: Things are named, then the linguistic burden actually comes to limit understanding.
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