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Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by colechristensen »

vlovich123 wrote: post #91
clueless wrote: post #66

so how does one verify that the battery in their iphone doesn't contain explosives?

The mechanism of action is unclear at this time. I’ve seen it written that the explosives were part of PCBs with electronics that mimicked the original.

It was an addon board with explosives on it which was attached to the existing normal circuit board.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by bushbaba »

fwip wrote: post #64
leoqa wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Israel is in their 9/11 moment and is not backing down due to international hand wringing. Ultimately it’s a test of the international institutions and US government support.

At this point, I wonder if Israel isn't intentionally trying to provoke more 9/11 moments. If they lose the direct support of the US or the tolerance of the wider international community, they can't fulfill their goals.

Or the flip side. Hamas promised to continue slaughtering Israeli Arabs, Jews, and Christians until they are all dead. Hezbollah has launched rockets into northern Israel for a year…with 100k+ Israelis forced to relocate south.

What exactly other option does Israel had. Peace talks didn’t go anywhere for last few decades

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by tptacek »

rmbyrro wrote: post #99
tptacek wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The supply chain for an iPhone is much stronger than for a Gold Alpha pager, and it's likely that the same thing will end up being true of these ICOM radios: they'll turn out to be designed and branded by ICOM, but actually manufactured and distributed by some random Eastern European outfit that paid to use ICOM as a skinsuit. That would never happen with an Apple device.

> The supply chain for an iPhone is much stronger Probably not strong enough to make it unreachable by a sophisticated agency like the Mossad.

I think the most likely outcome here is that all these devices were intercepted from the same firm.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by janmo »

If the mossad was able to plant explosives without being caught, I wouldn't be surprised if they also planted bugs (indiscriminately) in many electronic devices delivered to Lebanon such as TVs, computers, phones etc...

Similar to the spy chips implants within the Supermicro server motherboards.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by fwip »

flyinglizard wrote: post #59
realo wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thousands of civilians injured... very few Hezbollah dead. Makes Israel look like a terrorist organization, IMHO.

Why would civilians have in their possession tactical communication devices of a military organization?

One reason is that Hezbollah is not a purely military organization, and has political, medical and educational arms. Another is that some of the reported casualties are the family of Hezbollah members.

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by wl »

tptacek wrote: post #43
steventhedev wrote: post #10

Please note that this is distinct from yesterday's incident - these are for a different set of communication devices - from what I can see, they went off at 16:58 local time - notably 2 minutes prior to Nasrallah's planned speech on the first incident.

Apparently, these are ICOM devices --- you have in your head maybe like a police walkie talkie from the 80s, but these things are smaller than flip-phones, a little smaller than the palm of your hand.

Icom is a Japanese company. They make radios, including police walkie talkies (land mobile radios). The pictures I've seen look like bog-standard land mobile radios. Not particularly small, and larger than most flip phones.

The radio in question: https://rigpix.com/icom/icv82.htm

Re: Hezbollah hand-held radios detonate across Lebanon, sources say

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Post by Zironic »

flyinglizard wrote: post #59
realo wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thousands of civilians injured... very few Hezbollah dead. Makes Israel look like a terrorist organization, IMHO.

Why would civilians have in their possession tactical communication devices of a military organization?

Hezbollah like most other similar organisations is not a primarily military organisation even though they are a paramilitary one. The vast majority of the members of Hezbollah have non-military roles of various kinds.
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