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Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Post by Workaccount2 »

jtc331 wrote: post #76
mishu2 wrote: post #43

It may still take us some time to reach that goal, but the good news is that we have an effective solution available right now: keeping good oral hygiene is known to prevent both caries and gum disease, and takes less than 10 minutes a day for the average person. If you need more information, we recently developed a free website to get you started: https://lifelongsmiles.hk/

My wife seems to be basically immune to cavities; I get them easily. I brush very carefully; she brushes only quickly. Our diets are the same — if anything she probably gets more sugar. We have the same water source. Etc. Clearly there’s a lot more to this than what you’re claiming. Unless you’d propose that all of my current problems are due to conditions while I was child or similar.

I'm the same as your wife.

I skipped the dentist for 18 years, and during the earlier part of that span I had pretty sparse dental habits. I went in expecting the worst, but I had 1 cavity, and it was shallow enough to be drilled no novocaine. Nowadays I just brush once a day.

Thank you for letting me brag, because the other parts of my body, like heart and lungs, are total shit.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Post by k__ »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #101
jtc331 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife seems to be basically immune to cavities; I get them easily. I brush very carefully; she brushes only quickly. Our diets are the same — if anything she probably gets more sugar. We have the same water source. Etc. Clearly there’s a lot more to this than what you’re claiming. Unless you’d propose that all of my current problems are due to conditions while I was child or similar.

I'm the same as your wife. I skipped the dentist for 18 years, and during the earlier part of that span I had pretty sparse dental habits. I went in expecting the worst, but I had 1 cavity, and it was shallow enough to be drilled no novocaine. Nowadays I just brush once a day. Thank you for letting me brag, because the other parts of my body, like heart and lungs, are total shit.

Same.

My ADHD makes brushing my teeth daily impossible. Yet, I went to the dentist today (first time after a decade)and had only one small cavity.

My partner on the other hand brushes multiple times daily and had surgery last year, because she had a particulary bad cavity.

Some dentist say, they don't kiss their kids, so they don't infect them with the cavity bacteria, but I kiss my partner all the time for decades and my teeth never got worse from it.

There were times when I drank energy drinks and ate sweet snacks daily, didn't make it worse either.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Post by ck2 »

Anecdotal of course but because of my long-covid I have been taking a ton of Vitamin K2 over the past few years.

And all my teeth aches are gone, one less problem to worry about.

This matches reports by others that K2 seems to pull calcium out of your saliva and into your gums/teeth where it should be and makes them stronger. Maybe. It does seem to keep teeth more "squeaky clean".

https://google.com/search?q=vitamin-k2+squeaky+clean+teeth

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Post by 11235813213455 »

jtc331 wrote: post #76
mishu2 wrote: post #43

It may still take us some time to reach that goal, but the good news is that we have an effective solution available right now: keeping good oral hygiene is known to prevent both caries and gum disease, and takes less than 10 minutes a day for the average person. If you need more information, we recently developed a free website to get you started: https://lifelongsmiles.hk/

My wife seems to be basically immune to cavities; I get them easily. I brush very carefully; she brushes only quickly. Our diets are the same — if anything she probably gets more sugar. We have the same water source. Etc. Clearly there’s a lot more to this than what you’re claiming. Unless you’d propose that all of my current problems are due to conditions while I was child or similar.

not a specialist, but diet is quite overrated for health, even for teeth health. Other important factors: BMI, exercise, sun exposure (natural vit D), life style/stress, sleep, ..

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Post by teslabox »

Loughla wrote: post #78
teslabox wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I learned about Novamin a few years ago [0], and ordered BioMin Restore [1] to give it a try. I'm now a devoted customer. There are other Novamin/hydroxyapatite toothpastes, but I only have experience with this one brand. I think this company's latest news is the version of their toothpaste that has fluoride [2] is now FDA-approved for sensitive teeth, so they're going to be able to sell it in the United States speci…

Is there any science available about that, that isn't from the company selling it?

My HN comment, linked to as [0], was on a submission about the history of NovaMin - iirc it was originally used for soldiers in Vietnam, then came to be used for repair of teeth.

You can do your own experiment: $10 for a tube, plus $6 shipping. If you have sensitive teeth it’s worth a trial.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Post by radlad »

fwipsy wrote: post #97
mishu2 wrote: post #43

It may still take us some time to reach that goal, but the good news is that we have an effective solution available right now: keeping good oral hygiene is known to prevent both caries and gum disease, and takes less than 10 minutes a day for the average person. If you need more information, we recently developed a free website to get you started: https://lifelongsmiles.hk/

I brush and floss every day but the cost is not trivial. Saving ten minutes EVERY day for everyone who brushes would be a massive, massive success. Not to mention it would improve health for people who can't get into the habit.

I suspect you'll still want to brush your teeth for reasons besides cavities.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Post by poochkoishi728 »

mishu2 wrote: post #58
ttrmw wrote: post #53

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Dunno that it's awkwardness so much as the discomfort of watching someone with pretty messed up teeth forcing too-large ID brushes in between them

Thank you all very much for the feedback, it gives me a new perspective on things. We wanted to show a real case, rather than animations, because we thought it would be clearer for our patients; but we are probably desensitized to watching stuff like this. Would you prefer to see a 3D animation instead, or something else?

We want clean, healthy and attractive teeth and mouths to stare at. Rather than the e.g. inter-dental mouth that triggers disgust even if realistic. Use the attractive models in the video if they have healthy teeth ideally.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Post by mishu2 »

throwworhtthrow wrote: post #99
mishu2 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you all very much for the feedback, it gives me a new perspective on things. We wanted to show a real case, rather than animations, because we thought it would be clearer for our patients; but we are probably desensitized to watching stuff like this. Would you prefer to see a 3D animation instead, or something else?

I watched all the patient videos and found them helpful. There's no substitute for seeing examples with a real mouth. The interdental brush video is a bit more "intense" than the rest. Can't be helped: you need to show someone with teeth gaps. Perhaps move that one down in the list so newcomers start with a more gentle video?

Thank you for the feedback, I'm glad you found them helpful!

I wanted the interdental cleaning part to come first, because it usually gets neglected and it's just as important as tooth brushing.

But I like your suggestion to change the order, as that would indeed give a gentler introduction.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Post by mishu2 »

memset wrote: post #85
mishu2 wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you all very much for the feedback, it gives me a new perspective on things. We wanted to show a real case, rather than animations, because we thought it would be clearer for our patients; but we are probably desensitized to watching stuff like this. Would you prefer to see a 3D animation instead, or something else?

I actually really prefer the videos of real people doing the thing! I've literally never seen a video of how to floss - even at the dentist they show you how on a little model. Thanks for sharing these!

I'm glad they were useful to you.

Re: Reports of the death of dental cavities are greatly exaggerated

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Post by amarant »

cubefox wrote: post #60

> We are thus left with a product, Lumina, that cannot guarantee the prevention of future caries "Guarantees" are not strictly needed. What matters most is whether there is a substantial reduction of future caries, not whether it makes you totally immune to it. Say, if Lumina/BCS3-L1 "only" reduces cavities by 50%, it is already half as good (arguably) as a drug which prevented 100%. This would already be large progr…

I feel like this is a trend in online writing lately, and it's leading me to more and more withdraw from online discourse. Whenever someone introduces something that greatly helps with something, there are a bunch of people who start pointing out that, while the new solution is waay better than anything before it, it's not 100% perfect, and therefore "it's benefits are exaggerated" or similar. If the new thing is in the public eye for long enough, those "exaggerated" complaints start morphing into "it's a scam", and shortly after that the new solution to yesterday's problem is the villain that must be stopped.

It's really confusing, and quite tiring.

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