The Future of European Competitiveness

Post by 7bit » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 5:58 PM UTC

7bit wrote: post #87

throwaway48540 wrote: post #43

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Try to talk to people instead of relying on some abstract numbers. "Yeah I'm so happy I have a job paying 500 USD per month, and I am so happy my 1.5-room flat rent is just 350" is a very common thing to hear where I live. The tax rate is 35% btw. Also, try to find newer statistics at least. 2016 was around the local maxima, everything went to shit - very noticeably - during and after covid.

> Try to talk to people instead of relying on some abstract numbers. Because anecdotal evidence is better than empirically researched data? LOL

Post by leadingthenet » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 6:40 PM UTC

pfannkuchen wrote: post #85

carlosjobim wrote: post #63

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> Who does that leave to defend against? Maybe the criminal gangs, who already have capacity rivaling and sometimes surpassing European governments? Or maybe killing, gang raping, shooting, bombing and looting is not an actual military conflict, because the soldiers don't wear uniforms, and thus nothing for the busy Europeans to mind.

Those are big problems, but the issue is a lack of will, not a lack of military strength. If the will situation changed those threats could be gone within a week.

Post by surgical_fire » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 7:12 PM UTC

throwaway48540 wrote: post #96

surgical_fire wrote: post #94

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I do. Most people I talk to are doing fine. Nothing close to what you described.

Define "doing fine", please. These people think they are doing fine. If you think this is not usual, why is 15% of my state population in irrecoverable debt?

Post by pokerface_86 » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 7:59 PM UTC

frankjr wrote: post #5

> Europe largely missed out on the digital revolution led by the internet and the productivity gains it brought: in fact, the productivity gap between the EU and the US is largely explained by the tech sector. The EU is weak in the emerging technologies that will drive future growth. Only four of the world’s top 50 tech companies are European. > Europe is stuck in a static industrial structure with few new companies…

Post by archagon » Mon, Sep 09, 2024, 8:34 PM UTC

Workaccount2 wrote: post #53

silverquiet wrote: post #27

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> We can't defend ourselves, our economies are de-industrializing, we have right and left radical taking over political spectrum all the while our pension and healthcare systems are moving ever closer to a breaking point. Other than the defense part, the same could be said for the US.

The US has very rosy economic future projections compared to Europe, and frankly the rest of the world. Don't be fooled by sensational headlines and chronically online college kids complaining.