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Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Porn is fine. Sex has been a part of our social fabric for longer than we've been human.

Obviously, there exists a lot of exploitation in porn, but performers who enjoy doing it and can support themselves with it on a platform like of? More power to them.

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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It's the same pipe dream as "AI content creators will take over youtube". There is no "formula" for success in the creator economy - the winners are largely random. A better way to look at it is there are 4 million humans out there trying every permutation to crack success, and ~400k actually do it. Unless you have a sufficiently advanced AI agent that is both varying it's content and it's marketing strategy to the t…

> There is no "formula" for success in the creator economy - the winners are largely random. That observation has echoes of the music industry - another extremely top-heavy creator business. There are formulaic ways to make "good enough" and "catchy enough" songs, but the window for "X enough" keeps shifting. Cranking out grunge won't be sustainable in the age of K-pop. But the massive runaway hits have been predomin…

Yeah but Rick Rubin is always involved and Max Martin has written a hell of a lot of megahits. Makes you think.

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A good AI girlfriend wouldn't be a therapist but would mimics every aspect of a girlfriend, including arguments and fights and makeups, because that's how bonding occurs. That's going to be how successful AI girlfriend will be made.

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I would expect them to have a greater desire for bonding than someone who has already been through a dozen relationships or possibly a divorce.

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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Why? They're common people, not sociopaths.

I'd say the set of people who want an AI girlfriend and the set of people whose defining trait is a lack of empathy is probably a bigger overlap than you think.

I don't see how this is true. I would expect a man who accepts female rejection and stick with AI to have more empathy than the women who rejected him, because e.g he is ugly.

Harassing men for their lack of dating success and ascribing negative personality traits simply because they are down on their luck makes them more resentful so you should stop doing that. It's called having empathy.

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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I'd say the set of people who want an AI girlfriend and the set of people whose defining trait is a lack of empathy is probably a bigger overlap than you think.

> I'd say the set of people who want an AI girlfriend and the set of people whose defining trait is a lack of empathy is probably a bigger overlap than you think. The defining trait of people who want an AI girlfriend is ugly, lonely men. Is lack of empathy the defining characteristic of ugly men? Or is it simply that people in general hate ugly people and thus ascribe various ills and character faults to them? I'd s…

>The defining trait of people who want an AI girlfriend is ugly, lonely men.

average men. 20/80

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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> I'd say the set of people who want an AI girlfriend and the set of people whose defining trait is a lack of empathy is probably a bigger overlap than you think. The defining trait of people who want an AI girlfriend is ugly, lonely men. Is lack of empathy the defining characteristic of ugly men? Or is it simply that people in general hate ugly people and thus ascribe various ills and character faults to them? I'd s…

I know plenty of ugly men in committed, loving relationships. You're the one bringing up looks. I don't think it matters what you look like; if you want to date a computer you have some kind of psychiactric disorder.

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Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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It's the same pipe dream as "AI content creators will take over youtube". There is no "formula" for success in the creator economy - the winners are largely random. A better way to look at it is there are 4 million humans out there trying every permutation to crack success, and ~400k actually do it. Unless you have a sufficiently advanced AI agent that is both varying it's content and it's marketing strategy to the t…

> There is no "formula" for success in the creator economy - the winners are largely random. That observation has echoes of the music industry - another extremely top-heavy creator business. There are formulaic ways to make "good enough" and "catchy enough" songs, but the window for "X enough" keeps shifting. Cranking out grunge won't be sustainable in the age of K-pop. But the massive runaway hits have been predomin…

That's arguably all entertainment. Fiction writing, art, music, movies, sports, vloggers, influencers, OnlyFans creators, etc. There's a couple brands so established that literally anything they do prints money, then there's a winner-takes-all dynamics that keeps making few randos briefly successful every season, and then there's everyone else who never makes enough to break even.

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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> I'd say the set of people who want an AI girlfriend and the set of people whose defining trait is a lack of empathy is probably a bigger overlap than you think. The defining trait of people who want an AI girlfriend is ugly, lonely men. Is lack of empathy the defining characteristic of ugly men? Or is it simply that people in general hate ugly people and thus ascribe various ills and character faults to them? I'd s…

I know plenty of ugly men in committed, loving relationships. You're the one bringing up looks. I don't think it matters what you look like; if you want to date a computer you have some kind of psychiactric disorder.

Ok, but then there is also the increasing number of women who don't want a boyfriend either because they want a same sex relationship or because they can't find a man on their educational level, since women graduate at a higher rate. The reason is mostly irrelevant, what matters is that supply and demand are imbalanced and one side has to deal with not getting what they want in one way or another.

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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> There is no "formula" for success in the creator economy - the winners are largely random. That observation has echoes of the music industry - another extremely top-heavy creator business. There are formulaic ways to make "good enough" and "catchy enough" songs, but the window for "X enough" keeps shifting. Cranking out grunge won't be sustainable in the age of K-pop. But the massive runaway hits have been predomin…

Yeah but Rick Rubin is always involved and Max Martin has written a hell of a lot of megahits. Makes you think.

Jack Antonoff as well. There certainly exist a handful of people who consistently produce hits for decades.

Re: Breaking Down OnlyFans' Economics

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It was covid Otherwise, paid porn was already on the downswing due to the rise of free tube sites. Onlyfans somehow got men paying for porn again.

Onlyfans is more than porn. DMs with your "star" (her assistant), exclusive content, and other parasocial interactions create a kind of connection that is a lot deeper than just porn. When you can combine that experience with AI generated content, you will create something that I don't think anyone fully understands the ramifications of yet.

Even "assistant" (singular) is misleading. It's 30 men in the Philippines mashed together with AI-bots.
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