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AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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post #89

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I haven't found a use for it. What do you use it for?

It gives amazing medical advice and answers, way better than webmd or frankly even most primary care physicians ive seen.

How do you know that? Are you a doctor?

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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post #31

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I've made this statement a bunch in other mediums: The reason AI software is always "AI software" and not just a useful product is because AI is fallible. The reason we can build such deep and complex software system is because each layer can assume the one below it will "just work". If it only worked 99% of the time, we'd all still be interfacing with assembly, because we'd have to be aware of the mistakes that were…

Recent work from Meta uses AI to automatically increase test coverage with zero human checking of AI outputs. They do this with a strong oracle for AI outputs: whether the AI-generated test compiles, runs, and hits yet-unhit lines of code in the tested codebase. We probably need a lot more work along this dimension of finding use cases where strong automatic verification of AI outputs is possible.

> with zero human checking of AI outputs

It can be hard enough for humans to just look at some (already consistently passing) tests and think, "is X actually the expected behavior or should it have been Y instead?"

I think you should have a look at the abstract, especially this quote:

> 75% of TestGen-LLM's test cases built correctly, 57% passed reliably, and 25% increased coverage. During Meta's Instagram and Facebook test-a-thons, it improved 11.5% of all classes to which it was applied, with 73% of its recommendations being accepted for production deployment by Meta software engineers

This tool sounds awesome in that it generated real tests that engineers liked! "zero human checking of AI outputs" is very different though, and "this test passes" is very different from "this is a good test"

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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post #89

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It gives amazing medical advice and answers, way better than webmd or frankly even most primary care physicians ive seen.

How do you know that? Are you a doctor?

Ask chatgpt -> get advice-> double check on Google- > try advice -> my medical issue is solved

This has happened to me 3-4 times, hasn't sent me wrong yet. Meanwhile I've had doctors misdiagnose me or my wife a bunch of times in my life. Doctors may have more knowledge but they barely listen, and often don't keep up with the latest stuff.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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Companies keep going at it the wrong way. Instead of saying "We have AI, let's find products we can make out of AI!" they should be saying, "What products do people want, let's use whatever tools we have (including maybe AI) to make them." The idea that a company is an AI company should be as ridiculous as a company being a Python company. "We are Python-first, have Python experts, and all of our products are made wi…

Ehhh it’s a spectrum. First you innovate, then you commercialise. Even Google took a few years to successfully monetise and they weren’t the first mover in web search. LLMs have been around for, what, coming up on three years? Probably two to four more years to see results.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

#105
post #29

Well the whole 'creating gods' thing is just silly fantasy nonsense to cover up for what's really going on, which is novelty and gimmicks. It's okay, I mean even the internet started out as Charlie_Bit_Me.avi and free porn.

Factually incorrect about the genesis of the internet or even the “mass” internet. But, okay.

Apologies, I totally forgot about the pedantry of arguing on the internet that really drove its adoption.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

#106
post #41

ChatGPT is very useful for me to the point that I pay subscription fee. To me it IS the product.

I haven't found a use for it. What do you use it for?

It's outrageous at translation. I can set it to record next to my wife and her grandma speaking in Korean, through phone speakers, and it creates a perfect transcription and translation. Insane.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

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post #29

Well the whole 'creating gods' thing is just silly fantasy nonsense to cover up for what's really going on, which is novelty and gimmicks. It's okay, I mean even the internet started out as Charlie_Bit_Me.avi and free porn.

> Charlie_Bit_Me.avi

Charlie Bit Me is of the YouTube generation, so it wasn't passed around as an avi email attachment like some older memes of the previous generation. From that long ago, Exploding Whale comes to mind.

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

#108
post #89

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It gives amazing medical advice and answers, way better than webmd or frankly even most primary care physicians ive seen.

Are you a doctor? On what basis are you evaluating medical advice?

Whether or not it works!

Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

#109
post #52

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Factually incorrect about the genesis of the internet or even the “mass” internet. But, okay.

I mean, the Internet really seemed to take off when people realized they could get free porn, to be honest. I'm betting the adoption curve for AI hits when the first company sells photorealistic porn of anyone you have a picture of. Hell, half ass Photoshop porn is lucrative already.

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Re: AI companies are pivoting from creating gods to building products

#110
post #65

Companies keep going at it the wrong way. Instead of saying "We have AI, let's find products we can make out of AI!" they should be saying, "What products do people want, let's use whatever tools we have (including maybe AI) to make them." The idea that a company is an AI company should be as ridiculous as a company being a Python company. "We are Python-first, have Python experts, and all of our products are made wi…

Its the same as all the "we are a blockchain company" startups that popped up looking for a problem to solve with their tech rather than the right way round. However, a lot of those got a bunch of investment or made some decent money in the short term. Very few are still around. We will see the same pattern here.

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