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CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

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Re: CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

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Workers should not return to the office. WFH or remote work should be permanent for all -- CEOs and low level staffers.

Should workers also not return to the farm, the factory, the mine, the hospital? Flexible work arrangements are great but it's only a tiny fraction of the privileged laptop class who even potentially have the option of remote work.

Re: CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

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No, they know. They can't do anything about it under the current legal framework, though.

I don’t see why you should be able to do anything about this legally as an employee. As a shareholder you have more of a claim.

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Re: CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

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post #35

CEOs of medium/large companies are the face of the company which means making a couple key decisions per week (a few work hours) and meeting with current/prospective clients (leisure activities). Coupled with making far more $ than the rest of the employees, I suspect they're both bored at the office and feel downgraded to a regular employee. Thus, out-of-office with nothing to show. But if the company is _coincident…

Everyone on this site is so anti-C-suite it's crazy. All the standard "big company CEO bad, me entry level employee good" talking points. You would think that a site based on entrepreneurship would have people on it that have more of an understanding of what running a business is actually like.

It's difficult to explain to people how much it sucks to be on call 24/7 forever.

Yeah, I've done less than two hours of work, but that doesn't mean I had 22 hours of free time.

Re: CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

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post #35

CEOs of medium/large companies are the face of the company which means making a couple key decisions per week (a few work hours) and meeting with current/prospective clients (leisure activities). Coupled with making far more $ than the rest of the employees, I suspect they're both bored at the office and feel downgraded to a regular employee. Thus, out-of-office with nothing to show. But if the company is _coincident…

Meeting with current and prospective clients is not leisure, it's stressful as fuck even if it's over dinner.

Is it 39x more stressful than destroying your body on a factory floor so you can feed your kids?

Re: CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

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Most people don't have the capital to create a company and become a CEO.

You can create a software company with 0 capital. Stop making excuses.

Like, not even with a computer?

Re: CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

#106

Workers should not return to the office. WFH or remote work should be permanent for all -- CEOs and low level staffers.

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Let’s face it, the office job class of workers has been stuck in almost the same work routine as 80+ years ago when we used typewriters. And EVEN THEN we still had teleworking as a concept. We’re long overdue for a legitimate overhaul of what work looks like for the typical office. Not saying jobs that require in person presence shouldn’t be compensated for that- just that we need to look at it seriously.

Re: CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

#107

Until people start leaving (and not joining) these companies en masse that have poor and hypocritical leadership, none of this will change.

We had a choice for about half a second, and then the tech industry collapsed and all of our leverage went away again. Makes the tech union concept more attractive.

Re: CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

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We just send out an email when the boss is in town and ask folks to come in, and enough people do to make the office seem full - and that works, we will even fly people in sometimes.

It’s a shame you can’t hire extras for the day to make the office lively. Edit: Maybe you can? Check with someone who does local casting?

> Edit: Maybe you can? Check with someone who does local casting?

And start an office pool on whether or not the boss even notices that they’re not real employees.

Re: CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

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post #40

A recurring theme in so many startups I've seen inside is how the CEO in particular is extremely aloof with regards to presence. Sometimes that translates to aloofness for staff, but what more often happens is that when the CEO _does_ come in they expect other people to be there. So long as the alignment is good they don't care, but when it's not aligned, they just assume nobody is ever around and get real pissy abou…

> Sometimes that translates to aloofness for staff, but what more often happens is that when the CEO _does_ come in they expect other people to be there. Anecdotally, I have seen companies that have "oscillations" in their WFH policy and this, in my experience, has often been the driver of it. Instead of putting trust in the process or the data, you will simply have a situation where the CEO or (especially) where a g…

I think the introduction of WFH during the pandemic hurt a lot of IT workers in the long-run.

In the interests of “fairness” they are being ordered back to the office post-Covid even when their work processes mean they can be done perfectly well remotely, and even if they have widely geographically-distributed teams.

Anecdotal, but we had a team that was split with 50% working remotely before Covid, and we saw an improvement when everyone was forced to work remotely: conversations that were being held in person were shared openly.

Re: CEOs are running companies from afar even as workers return to office

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post #105

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You can create a software company with 0 capital. Stop making excuses.

Like, not even with a computer?

Yet somehow it's the ones with computers, earning significantly above average income, writing and reading this now.

You can start a company on a library computer...

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