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Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

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Post by cm2187 »

freitzkriesler2 wrote: post #78

If you're using ozempic or any other form of semiglutide , you'll want to keep and prioritize a high protein diet to reduce or eliminate the muscle wasting that the drug causes. Nothing worse than losing weight but most of the weight loss was muscle mass.

In the UK those products are only available to people with a BMI > 30. If you have 20 or 30 kg to lose it is simply not true that most of the weight loss is muscle mass. The fat is visible and the fat loss is also visible. You might lose a bit of muscle mass, and doing exercise at the same time is good. But between the loss of a bit of muscle mass during the diet vs remaining obese, it is an easy trade off from a health point of view.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

#102

Post by carlmr »

lagichikool wrote: post #91
Faaak wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I though GERD was not caused by coffee [1]: "Drinking coffee or tea and adding milk or sugar was not associated with reflux symptoms or EE" [1]: https://journals.lww.com/tcmj/_layouts/15/oaks.journals/down...

Certainly is a problem for me and I've seen others say the same. Every doctor I've been to has mentioned it as an issue. "Caffeine — a major component of many varieties of coffee and tea — has been identified as a possible trigger for heartburn in some people. Caffeine may trigger GERD symptoms because it can relax the lower esophageal sphincter (LES)." https://www.healthline.com/health/gerd/coffee-tea

I get really bad GERD from coffee and black tea, a bit less from green tea.

I don't get GERD from Mate tea or energy drinks. So I think it's not the caffeine. Since they both contain high amounts of caffeine, even higher than black tea.

I've noticed that if I eat more fiber I can somewhat mitigate this. But it needs to be consistent. Not just a little extra fiber before coffee.

BTW a high-fiber diet can be a natural ozempic by raising GLP-1 levels.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

#103

Post by carlmr »

metadat wrote: post #46
throwup238 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These are changes he hasn’t noticed in patients who have lost significant weight in other ways—like through diet or gastric bypass surgery—which makes him think it’s unique to GLP-1 usage.

TFA contains mixed messaging. The part you quoted is discussing face skin, then later, also talking about face skin: > (“We see a similar pattern in other causes of rapid weight loss, including gastric bypass surgery, he says.) In some cases, the loss of subcutaneous fat is significant enough that it impacts a patients’ ability to get injectables .. So which is it? My takeaway was that losing weight fast == problemat…

>and any intent to accurately inform vs. just get clicks.

This is missing one option. The source - plastic surgeons - may be people that profit from liposuction treatment. To keep patients they might not want people to use ozempic, or at least get people to notice changes in the face faster and get a facelift.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

#104

Post by sshine »

cbanek wrote: post #34
jordanb wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sometimes reminded of a parable of an old lady who swallowed a fly...

I don't know why she'd swallow a fly? Perhaps she'll die?

I heard she also swallowed a spider that wriggled and jiggled and tickled inside her

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

#105

Post by thefz »

cbanek wrote: post #2

I wonder if using something like Retinol, which is proven to improve skin and make it look tighter, younger, and get rid of blemishes, marks, and sun damage, could be paired with Ozempic to keep skin more healthy along with a good skin routine?

Then if Retinol has side effects, take another pill to counter these; and if such pill has side effects too, why not resort to another, and so on.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

#106

Post by thefz »

bamboozled wrote: post #6

It's strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law. So now you might get free weight loss without making any effort at all, but you'll also look older in the process? I have to say, my father has been taking it, and I noticed that he does look older all of a sudden...and his weight loss also plateaued. I thought it was just my imagination, but maybe not.

It's worth noting that people, in this forum especially, would defend weight loss drugs at any cost. Because for them they mean being not-obese without any trace of effort. Controlling caloric input, maybe even leaving the house and moving... puff. Gone. Just take a pill daily for the rest of your life.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

#107

Post by andy_ppp »

arcticbull wrote: post #80
andy_ppp wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know someone who lost an eye to diabetes, so your comment is certainly not hyperbole.

Diabetic retinopathy I assume? Sorry to hear it.

He said it felt like being constantly stabbed in the eye… probably not fun.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

#108

Post by thefz »

istultus wrote: post #38
dark-star wrote: post #27

A quick explanation about what Ozempic is would be helpful in this case. Not every country uses the same name for their drugs and the brand names are often very different

That's an interesting remark, considering this is most famous drug on the face of the Earth, and only has one brand name worldwide (in a different dosage it's called Wegovy, and when it's released as a pill it will be called Rybelsus). Its generic name is Semaglutide.

> this is most famous drug on the face of the Earth

I swear in Europe if you stop 10 people on the street, 9 will ask you what the hell you are talking about

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

#109

Post by thefz »

cm2187 wrote: post #101
freitzkriesler2 wrote: post #78

If you're using ozempic or any other form of semiglutide , you'll want to keep and prioritize a high protein diet to reduce or eliminate the muscle wasting that the drug causes. Nothing worse than losing weight but most of the weight loss was muscle mass.

In the UK those products are only available to people with a BMI > 30. If you have 20 or 30 kg to lose it is simply not true that most of the weight loss is muscle mass. The fat is visible and the fat loss is also visible. You might lose a bit of muscle mass, and doing exercise at the same time is good. But between the loss of a bit of muscle mass during the diet vs remaining obese, it is an easy trade off from a hea…

BMI is an empty metric anyway, you can be VERY muscular, slim but not very tall and still being in the same category of a near obese person.

Re: Ozempic is changing people's skin, say plastic surgeons

#110

Post by thefz »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #12
bamboozled wrote: post #6

It's strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law. So now you might get free weight loss without making any effort at all, but you'll also look older in the process? I have to say, my father has been taking it, and I noticed that he does look older all of a sudden...and his weight loss also plateaued. I thought it was just my imagination, but maybe not.

> strange how there is almost never a shortcut to anything. Like a universal law There are win-win tradeoffs. Vitamins, for instance. If you're running a vitamin deficiency, there isn't a downside to increasing your intake of that vitamin. (Curing acute dehydration via IV is another shortcut that just works.) The Ozempic story, for me, has been more about how we almost seem to be reflexively against the idea of a win…

> The Ozempic story, for me, has been more about how we almost seem to be reflexively against the idea of a win-win. A lot of people want there to be a tragic downside to the drug for reasons that aren't entirely clear to me.

It's easy, substitute the obese with the smokers demographic. Imagine them whining that they smoke because it's an environmental issue, that they just can't do otherwise, that it's a metabolic issue and not a willpower one, a genetic thing, lack of access to alternatives... anything besides their own will.

I wonder how taking a medicine for the rest of your life is a win-win when there are places in the world where obesity is almost non existent and it's been proven to be largely lifestyle related. Besides, semaglutide just makes the subjects crave less, reinforcing the willpower role in weight loss.

I have read people in this forum state that if they eat less, they gain more weight for some unknown genetical issue, like thermodynamics do not apply to them.

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