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Re: Waymo to begin testing on San Francisco freeways this week

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I don’t understand how Tesla is continuing to ride so high on a borderline-vaporware robotaxi when Waymo is so far ahead.

They’re solving different problems. Waymo works in only some areas and requires all sorts of hardware. Tesla FSD is trying to do something more generalized.

Re: Waymo to begin testing on San Francisco freeways this week

#102

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He obviously hasn't. The tech community is in for quite a shock with Tesla robotaxi's come out in a year or so and blow out the competition. One factor not discussed often is how much smoother FSD is compared to all other self driving. Especially noticeable when going from FSD to the free AutoSteer or GM Supercruise.

> tech community is in for quite a shock with Tesla robotaxi's come out in a year or so and blow out the competition 12.5.1.3 is incredible. But it's still Level 3, attempting to do something stupid at least on every trip I've been in one. I think Tesla will figure out Level 4 in the near future. What makes the "year or so" unrealistic is it will have to convince regulators that it's safe. For a variety of reasons, p…

Correction: Tesla is Level 2. Not Level 3.

Re: Waymo to begin testing on San Francisco freeways this week

#103

I wish they would test going back to point-to-point pick-ups and drop-offs. I can easily see reasons to move to a designated pick-up and drop-off location model, but I feel it weakens the value proposition for people with mobility issues if they have to walk a few blocks.

I don't think that's up to Waymo, it's a legal thing mostly. The city has to allow that. The funny thing about self-driving cars is that they're designed to obey laws to the letter, which real drivers never do. I think we're going to see a lot of laws necessarily getting updated to allow real-life driving behavior, such as double-parking during pickup and dropoff.

> I don't think that's up to Waymo, it's a legal thing mostly. The city has to allow that.

Did the SFPUC make a change to disallow that then, because point-to-point is how Waymo worked in SF as recently as a month or so ago? Perhaps they did, as a condition of allowing expansion.

Re: Waymo to begin testing on San Francisco freeways this week

#104

I don’t understand how Tesla is continuing to ride so high on a borderline-vaporware robotaxi when Waymo is so far ahead.

It's not a zero sum game.

No, but I don’t think its clear that Tesla deserves its valuation at its current rate. They aren’t demonstrating any competitive advantage or particular skill in the space vs Waymo

Re: Waymo to begin testing on San Francisco freeways this week

#105

I don’t understand how Tesla is continuing to ride so high on a borderline-vaporware robotaxi when Waymo is so far ahead.

They’re solving different problems. Waymo works in only some areas and requires all sorts of hardware. Tesla FSD is trying to do something more generalized.

I don't know what you are talking about. Tesla FSD is trying to do exactly the same thing, but they are struggling to do get it to work at all.

Re: Waymo to begin testing on San Francisco freeways this week

#106

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I take a lot of ride shares and I’ve always been able to recharge. 9/10 times I say nothing to the driver the whole time Not trying to play devil’s advocate, just my experience

Mark Pincus (Zynga founder) tweeted that he wanted an option not to talk to drivers. He got a huge shit storm for not wanting to talk to poor people. Definitely don't advertise that you don't want to talk to drivers. Progressive politics is weird.

After my first home run in business, which was widely publicized, I learned that my email and phone number were tainted. On craigslist I started getting worse deals, seems everyone seems to google everyone.

I rotated identities, just email, phone number, assumed a different last name in casual arenas, and everything went back to normal as a nobody.

Subsequently, the most amusing thing became reading about women googling all their potential dates. I never do that, but its funny that I’m a ghost and makes me wonder how many other ghosts they're giving the green check mark on. Seems like a waste of energy.

Re: Waymo to begin testing on San Francisco freeways this week

#107

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They’re solving different problems. Waymo works in only some areas and requires all sorts of hardware. Tesla FSD is trying to do something more generalized.

I don't know what you are talking about. Tesla FSD is trying to do exactly the same thing, but they are struggling to do get it to work at all.

No, Tesla is trying to create human like FSD. As in without relying on pre scanned pre vetted areas, and with (ideally) just two vision sensors like a human.

Re: Waymo to begin testing on San Francisco freeways this week

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It's not a zero sum game.

No, but I don’t think its clear that Tesla deserves its valuation at its current rate. They aren’t demonstrating any competitive advantage or particular skill in the space vs Waymo

All that means is people are paying too much for their shares in the business on the market, it doesn't mean Tesla don't have the financial or technical ability to deliver self driving cars

Re: Waymo to begin testing on San Francisco freeways this week

#110

I don’t understand how Tesla is continuing to ride so high on a borderline-vaporware robotaxi when Waymo is so far ahead.

Hmm, buddy with a new Model Y in the Midwest has driven less than 5 miles while putting in over 1500 miles.

Waymo doesn’t exist here.

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