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I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

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Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

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> McDonalds can fire you for any reason in my state. At any time. Yeah but if you show up for your scheduled shifts and are on time, sober, don't steal, and are moderately competent, they won't.

The crossover between people with those qualities and the people who find themselves in a position where McDonald's is a good deal is quite small. Often times these people have been failed by society on a number of fronts and have a very different perspective on the arrangement. This isn't to absolve people of personal responsibility, but we are much more of a product of our environment than most of us realize.

Those are the minimum expectations for any job. If you can't do those things you will forever be dependent on others to take care of you unless you were born into very fortunate circumstances.

Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

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I'm haven't worked at McDonalds for 20+ years, but I think that the top manager at each store is making $200k, and the top 4 are over $150k - it goes down fast below that though. I'm reasonable sure that if I had stayed at McDonalds I'd have never had a year where I made less than I made in tech. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be out, but they pay those they care about well enough, and there were some good things I…

> I think that the top manager at each store is making $200k, and the top 4 are over $150k Curious what this range is based on? According to ~3.8k self-reported salaries from Glassdoor, the McD manager salary ranges from $37k-$64k with a median of $48k.

I don’t like to speculate but I could imagine managers at some franchises receiving a bonus based on profits or sales.

Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

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Guy who makes $200,000 a year is aghast that some people actually work at McDonald's

I'm haven't worked at McDonalds for 20+ years, but I think that the top manager at each store is making $200k, and the top 4 are over $150k - it goes down fast below that though. I'm reasonable sure that if I had stayed at McDonalds I'd have never had a year where I made less than I made in tech. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad to be out, but they pay those they care about well enough, and there were some good things I…

Pretty sure my manager at Starbucks made $50k at most. Up from there probably higher but not at the store level

Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

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> Nobody thanked me. Do you think this is still true? This resonates with me. I used to work in tech, but I recently joined my family's brick-and-mortar business. No one says thank you, no one appreciates you. I find it amazing that this culture of thanklessness exists even in the US (I'm in India) in non-tech jobs. P.S. I worked at all fronts of the business before joining the management. Worked at the counter, as a…

> Nobody thanked me. I don't buy this for a second. I thank everyone for even the most trivial of interactions and I'm certainly not alone (in the US) Buy a Coke at 7-11 - "thank you!" Take package from UPS guy - "thank you!" Waiter takes order - "thank you!" Support rep puts me on hold to look up issue - "thank you!" Pretty much every retail/store interaction - "thank you!"

You may be in the U.S, but are clearly from Canada

Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

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Agree that’s kind of *^%% move, I’d have too much self respect to start working somewhere for a few weeks than bail. Doesn’t matter if it’s a food service job or a FAANG. McDonalds was doing him a solid by offering some kind of employment for a person presumably down on their luck with zero experience. Hiring people is a huge expense and risk even for a small franchise.

I dunno. Sounds like you've never bitten off more than you can chew. I have found myself in a situation before, where my continued participation would be an immediate low-grade harm and my rate of improvement was slow because I had volunteered for something well out of my wheelhouse. So I had a dilemma: give up and disappoint today, forcing my replacement; or carry on in my incompetence and risk the whole endeavor. Q…

Are you implying that working at a McDonalds counter was more than the future founder of meetup.com could chew?

Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

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The crossover between people with those qualities and the people who find themselves in a position where McDonald's is a good deal is quite small. Often times these people have been failed by society on a number of fronts and have a very different perspective on the arrangement. This isn't to absolve people of personal responsibility, but we are much more of a product of our environment than most of us realize.

Those are the minimum expectations for any job. If you can't do those things you will forever be dependent on others to take care of you unless you were born into very fortunate circumstances.

I would say stealing is the only of those that would exclude you from any job. Lots of stuff requires intermittent random periods of competence on your own schedule. For instance you could buy a dilapidated house and drunkenly fix it during moments of clarity and make a fat profit. Or fix and flip cars. Really anything involving independently flipping stuff.

Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

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McDonalds can fire you for any reason in my state. At any time. When you're renting yourself to authoritarian institutions like corporations, there is no "self respect" required for you to always take the best deal for yourself whenever possible.

> McDonalds can fire you for any reason in my state. At any time. Yeah but if you show up for your scheduled shifts and are on time, sober, don't steal, and are moderately competent, they won't.

And you aren't mouthy with other workers, managers or the customers.

Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

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I dunno. Sounds like you've never bitten off more than you can chew. I have found myself in a situation before, where my continued participation would be an immediate low-grade harm and my rate of improvement was slow because I had volunteered for something well out of my wheelhouse. So I had a dilemma: give up and disappoint today, forcing my replacement; or carry on in my incompetence and risk the whole endeavor. Q…

Are you implying that working at a McDonalds counter was more than the future founder of meetup.com could chew?

I believe I can revolutionise multiple fields. I cannot cut it working at a fast food restaurant. Ability is not one-dimensional.

Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

#109

Honestly, I think he’s living the dream — no tech headaches, just flipping burgers and taking it easy. Really makes me think...

You've never worked in fast food have you? "Taking it easy" is not how it works. You're on the clock 100% until you clock out, no rest, no breaks, if a burger takes more than 60 seconds to land on the customer's tray the boss is on your ass. If you miscalculate how many patties to slap on the grill and either run out or you have to toss some because they've sat in the steamer for more than 15 minutes you are in for s…

You could work the night shift, though that of course has a huge trade-off.

Re: I was a 20-something dethroned dotcom ceo that went to work at mcdonald's (2000)

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McDonalds can fire you for any reason in my state. At any time. When you're renting yourself to authoritarian institutions like corporations, there is no "self respect" required for you to always take the best deal for yourself whenever possible.

> in any state FTFY

Even just in the US that's not the case in Montana AIUI.
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