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The Oatmeal Fights Legal Threat, Raises $20,000 in an Hour

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Re: The Oatmeal Fights Legal Threat, Raises $20,000 in an Hour

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post #98

Pot meet kettle http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

Looking for legal options ... getting duped by iTunes descriptions ... forced to look for pirate options.

Hosting somebody else's images without arbitration. Then fall to name-calling when the owner asks for them to be taken down.

I fail to see the connection here. Care to explain?

Re: The Oatmeal Fights Legal Threat, Raises $20,000 in an Hour

#102
post #42

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The total is now $57K with 15 days left. Matthew is in the position of being able to use the internet as a money spigot if FunnyJunk really wants to escalate.

That kind of money isn't consistent, though - raising that much money from one case where people clearly want to side with him, even if he wasn't donating the money to two charities, is much easier than doing it every week to pay off legal expenses.

Now up to $97k.

Re: The Oatmeal Fights Legal Threat, Raises $20,000 in an Hour

#103
post #50

Matt Iman (guy behind TheOatmeal), was co-founder & original CTO of SEOMoz and left after his side project (Mingle2) blew up in popularity and was acquired. He mentions in his departing SEOMoz blog post that the company that acquired Mingle2 wanted "to leverage my viral marketing and linkbait abilities" - back in 2007. Fun to look at this through understanding that he's a SEO guru and viral-marketing genius. Perfect…

*Inman (you forgot an "n").

Re: The Oatmeal Fights Legal Threat, Raises $20,000 in an Hour

#104

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What kind do they need? I'd wager they got quite a bit of traffic over this incident, and if the court case comes to nothing, they'll be able to show advertisers their numbers.

I don't know. I've never heard of them before and I didn't click on them because of this (though I did read all the oatmeal blog posts). Doesn't sound like there's a reason to click on them if they just copy other sites for which Oatmeal has a link to the originators.

If 90% of everyone who hears about this story hates their guts and only 1% start using their service that's a big win for them. Being a small website is not like being a politician or national brand where you can't afford to alienate large numbers of people.

Re: The Oatmeal Fights Legal Threat, Raises $20,000 in an Hour

#105
post #66
post #36

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Isn't that just bigotry?

I'm confused - was the sarcasm in my post not clear?

I think that your post was horribly unclear. What are The Oatmeal's purported extreme views? And what are FunnyJunk's views here other than "We want your money"?

Re: The Oatmeal Fights Legal Threat, Raises $20,000 in an Hour

#106
post #101
post #98

Pot meet kettle http://theoatmeal.com/comics/game_of_thrones

Looking for legal options ... getting duped by iTunes descriptions ... forced to look for pirate options. Hosting somebody else's images without arbitration. Then fall to name-calling when the owner asks for them to be taken down. I fail to see the connection here. Care to explain?

Theft is theft is theft.

Re: The Oatmeal Fights Legal Threat, Raises $20,000 in an Hour

#107
post #94

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Consider the offsetting financial incentives here. Sites like FunnyJunk can be created by a small team, allow the upload of a ton of copyrighted content by users, and then run ads next to copyrighted content. Boom, instant money, and if they do well, maybe an acquisition (see: YouTube). All they have to do is keep up with DMCA takedowns, which are few and far between from small content producers like The Oatmeal. Mea…

If this changes small creators like The Oatmeal won't stand a chance. He bootstrapped the success of his website in large part through Reddit, which is of course a commercial site based around user-submitted content that allows and profits from a ton of copyright infringement. Stopping people from infringing your copyright is no good if no-one ever finds out about your content. Obviously this doesn't matter to The Oa…

I don't think you've thought this through.

The difference between Reddit and FunnyJunk is that FunnyJunk actually hosts the image files on the FunnyJunk server, keeping visitors there.

Reddit does not host anything but text--when you post an "image" to Reddit, you're really just posting a link. This drives the traffic to The Oatmeal (or whoever), who can then monetize it.

Reddit is an example of a web startup doing it right. They drive tons of traffic around the web. Techmeme is another, and so is Hacker News.

Re: The Oatmeal Fights Legal Threat, Raises $20,000 in an Hour

#109
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider the offsetting financial incentives here. Sites like FunnyJunk can be created by a small team, allow the upload of a ton of copyrighted content by users, and then run ads next to copyrighted content. Boom, instant money, and if they do well, maybe an acquisition (see: YouTube). All they have to do is keep up with DMCA takedowns, which are few and far between from small content producers like The Oatmeal. Mea…

I can't help but feel that Pinterest was on your mind when you wrote your comment as a hyper-modern day poster child. If not, then it sure sprang right into mine.

I'm not super familiar with Pinterest personally, but from what I've read, they drive significant amounts of traffic around the web, particularly to e-commerce. My understanding is that it is like Reddit, but with thumbnails. That seems (to me anyway) on the right side of the line.

Sites like FunnyJunk drive no traffic anywhere. They're built to suck in other people's content and keep all the traffic on the FunnyJunk servers.

Re: The Oatmeal Fights Legal Threat, Raises $20,000 in an Hour

#110

FunnyJunk is apparently responding quietly on their site, as just searching for the word 'oatmeal' results in no search results (that wasn't the case when this blog post went up). According to people I know that use the site, you cannot add comments with the word 'oatmeal', either. They also deleted every single linked image he exhaustively listed. I have a hard time resolving litigation like this with the fact that…

Inman sounds smart enough to have personally archived some evidence or found a reliable archive he can count on.

There are definitely caches. What scares me is: will that count as viable evidence and will the judge understand what has happened?

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