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A reawakening of systems programming meetups

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Re: A reawakening of systems programming meetups

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I was on the board of directors for a local Linux Users Group and can echo the difficulties in finding a venue. In a city full of empty office spaces on a weekday night it was virtually impossible to find a stable meeting location. Without a stable meeting location you are much less likely to establish a core group since people do not like to have to learn how to get to different venues. Mozilla hosted us at one poin…

France provide such public meeting space for non profit. It’s convenient.

It does happen in the US as well. On a city per city basis.

Re: A reawakening of systems programming meetups

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post #95

I was on the board of directors for a local Linux Users Group and can echo the difficulties in finding a venue. In a city full of empty office spaces on a weekday night it was virtually impossible to find a stable meeting location. Without a stable meeting location you are much less likely to establish a core group since people do not like to have to learn how to get to different venues. Mozilla hosted us at one poin…

Wow, great article. Really struck a chord with me. I help run the Boulder Ruby meetup ( https://boulder-ruby.org/ ). We survived covid, having to move venues multiple times, and the declining sexiness of Ruby. Thanks so much to our sponsors Mojotech (for space and drinks) and Github (for zoom). We're still looking for other sponsors for pizza support--if you are in the Boulder area and are interested, please reach ou…

    > the declining sexiness of Ruby
What is replacing it?

Re: A reawakening of systems programming meetups

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I think the worst part of "meetup culture" is that there's almost always a commercial angle that takes preference over the community angle. No shade to OP, but even though this is what pissed them off about their JS meetup, they're still doing it by having their speakers essentially pitch joining their engineering team.

The other side of the coin is that default advice on the internet for getting a job as a developer used to include "go to local developer meetups", and as a founder/business, it's an obvious idea to see developer meetups as a potential marketing/recruiting channel. So a lot of attendees do actually want jobs, and a lot of speakers want to give people jobs. But will people stick around once they get that job? And is job-oriented content really what you want out of a meetup as a consistent attendee?

I wonder if some combination of reading groups, a process to get regular attendees to present, and hackathons might create a more sustainable programming meetup culture. It can still be corporate funded (eg have it in their building or shout them out or cobrand or whatever) but the content could be a lot more interesting. It might not work for Javascript, but systems programming actually intersects with a lot of published research and has more of a hacker culture, so I think you could pull it off. Incidentally, I just acquired some office space in SF and might be interested in hosting one if I had enough interest and volunteers.

Re: A reawakening of systems programming meetups

#104

I was on the board of directors for a local Linux Users Group and can echo the difficulties in finding a venue. In a city full of empty office spaces on a weekday night it was virtually impossible to find a stable meeting location. Without a stable meeting location you are much less likely to establish a core group since people do not like to have to learn how to get to different venues. Mozilla hosted us at one poin…

> I do believe that it should be a mandate for the municipality to provide meeting space for local non-profit and special interest groups. I never realized this was something that was needed so bad, but yeah. In my city we have a bunch of privately owned venues that you can rent , but the cost ranges from reasonable to very not reasonable. To be fair, a lot of my local technical meetups just hang out at one of the qu…

I have been to meetups at bars/restaurants and it was impossible for me to follow conversations due to moderate hearing loss. Please take this into account when selecting a meetup location.

Re: A reawakening of systems programming meetups

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post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Even when a company offers meeting space, they can be overbearing about it. I was involved a tiny bit in reviving a local interest group of high-powered programmers. Another person, who did all the actual hard work, of meeting organizing, got meeting space at a Big Tech company... Unfortunately, as a Big Tech (and in the surveillance capialism space), it was complete with signing in with security in the lobby, gettin…

> high-powered programmers how many Watts did you require for the meet up?

I laughed when I saw that phrase also. And, to answer your question, it's dead simple: 1.21 Gigawatts

Re: A reawakening of systems programming meetups

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> I used to attend a bunch of meetups before the pandemic. But I quickly got disillusioned. Almost every meetup was varying degrees of startups pitching their product. The last straw for me was sitting through a talk at a JavaScript meetup that was by a devrel employee of a startup who literally gave a tutorial for their product. My favorite local meetups fell to problems like this. It was easy to filter out the DevR…

Counter point: I've been to Filipino meetups (Raid the fridge) where companies (even traditional/established banks) presented new products and services they'd been trying to launch mixed in with some company history. They'd talk about the tech used, the difficulties (tech, business, legal, market) encountered and how they worked around those. It was definitely more than just a sales pitch even when there was some of…

    > more than just a sales pitch
This is a great post. What so many of the developer relations people miss: Don't focus on the sales pitch so much. Focus on a good technical problem that will be relevant to your audience. It's OK to toss your name and product into the mix a bit, but don't beat your audience over the head!

Re: A reawakening of systems programming meetups

#107

I was on the board of directors for a local Linux Users Group and can echo the difficulties in finding a venue. In a city full of empty office spaces on a weekday night it was virtually impossible to find a stable meeting location. Without a stable meeting location you are much less likely to establish a core group since people do not like to have to learn how to get to different venues. Mozilla hosted us at one poin…

Perhaps there's a local hackerspace in your area that'd be willing to host your group?

Re: A reawakening of systems programming meetups

#108

I recently moved to London and I wanted to start participating in these kind of events, where’s the best place to look for them?

A decade ago meetup.com was the place to look - if you wanted you could have gone to a different meet up every night, from Linux user group, python testing group, London Java community etc.

It seems like some of these are still active on meetup.com, so that might be a good starting point.

Re: A reawakening of systems programming meetups

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post #82

I would love to see this in Chicago. Unfortunately.. a lot of the wind got let out of the sails in the city for tech meetups during covid.

Make it happen! That's how these things work. People will show up. You just have to white-knuckle it through the first couple meetups and then they take on a life of their own.

Re: A reawakening of systems programming meetups

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post #4

I'm surprised that universities don't open their doors to such events for everyone. 'Systems' is fairly industry-focused. So, academia-industry partnerships on seminars seems like a great idea. It's a shame (and imo, mind boggling) that SF proper doesn't have a tier 1 university. While Stanford and Berkeley are very close, the lack of a grounding institution makes SF culture feel 'dispersed'.

As I understand, UCSF (University of California at San Francisco) is a graduate school only. And, the medical school _is_ Tier 1, as I understand.

Wiki says:

    > In 2023, UCSF received the 2nd highest research funding from the National Institutes of Health. In 2021, the university spent $1.71 billion in research and development, the second most among institutions of higher education in the U.S.
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